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Would you forgive? SPOILERS

posted 16 years ago by thevikingage777
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This is merely a hypothetical curiousity on my part, I'm fully aware that the point of the story is forgiveness and the enduring power of love, but let's play the what if game... What if you were in the main character's shoes...would you forgive Susan?

She seems to have really loved Ryan's character, plus the daughter is a sweetheart (even though she turns into a slut when she gets older), and you have a adulterous best friend you have to wonder about. I personally would forgive her only if she was upfront about it being Buddy and if she was willing to tell me every detail. Not that I would want to know every detail, but I think if a woman betrays your marriage like that she needs to be forthcoming of all the details, or at least be willing to do so. Susan wasn't however, she refused to give Buddy up which again shows dishonesty, so that would hang over me.

I would try to get back with her just for the sake of the daughter, but I'd have a real hard time trusting Susan who seems to treat the whole situation as a mistake that she doesn't want to talk about ever again because "love conquers all" or some bullcrap. Also, I certainly wouldn't forgive Buddy, but then again, I wouldn't be friends with Buddy in the first place because he's a selfserving prick who flirts shamelessly with Susan which is totally not cool.

What about you guys?

[–] cory_rudy98 16 years ago

I don't know what I would do, but on her record, I don't think she knew the daughter wasn't Frank's. Plus, the incident with Buddy occurred (according to them) before the night she chose Frank, so that makes it a little different too. I like to think I would be forgiving, but I don't know if I could.

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[–] PeterMarkoff 16 years ago

I think it's wrong question - there is nothing to need forgive Susan. She wasn't cheating him when she become pregnant and she probably didn't knew he wasn't father, so what's there to forgive her?

It's same with buddy, he Fd his wife when they haven't relationship, so what's there to forgive him?

But it was him who cheated his wife in hotel and did stupid other things which need to be forgiven by his wife.

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[–] eriklf 16 years ago

I wouldn't forgive her. First she threw him out when she heard about the baby, without even giving him a chance to explain. and later we learn that Jesse isn't even Frank's daughter. no, I would not forgive her.

[–] GDsBgstFan 16 years ago

Susan didn't do anything wrong.

Nothing for him to forgive except maybe her jumping to the wrong conclusions about what he had been doing. She slept with their friend BEFORE they got together.

[–] rome12 16 years ago

in the end it turns out there really are no villians but frank certainly is a victim and this is a film about tragedy and misunderstanding about him and susan needs to apologize for the way she treated him and be there for him and supportive which eventually happens in that touching scene when he returns home and wants to know who the father is but she won't tell him and tells him that he still really is. ( she should have told him that too but i guess that makes for a more interesting plot.)

a sweet, moving tale of misunderstanding, tragic revelations, forgiveness and acceptance.

[–] bullock607 15 years ago

Susan wasn't so forgiving when she thought Frank was cheating on her.

I hate hypocrisy

[–] abinferno 15 years ago

Did you actually watch the movie? She didn't betray their marriage. She slept with Buddy at a Christmas party in December before she and Frank even got together.

[–] JFrawley032759 15 years ago

The sleeping with Buddy needn't be forgiven, because it was before she married Frank. The vindictiveness of throwing him out and refusing to listen to him is an entirely different matter. I would not, ever, under any circumstances, forgive that. It would have been interesting if at the end we saw him sitting with his second wife (whom we had not seen before) and his ex-wife were sitting with Buddy, her husband of the past 15 years.

[–] Amadio 15 years ago

Good answer :o) Would have made a better movie.

[–] robxthedrive 15 years ago

Exactly my thoughts. The hypocrisy of it all on top of it would have amplified the inability to forgive. After however many years of marriage, she still didn't trust him, not even enough to hear him out but then expects that trust in return.

[–] lamont-hard 13 years ago

Don't forget buddy tried to sleep with her when he thought he had a chance and she turned him down. he is the sleazeball.

[–] bellamae 15 years ago

This is true. And, if she had been more understanding and listened to him in the first place, he wouldn't have needed to find the proof he sought out, so they would never know. She brought that on herself.

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[–] vidvuk 15 years ago

To be honest, I was disgusted and enraged by Susan's behaviour when she "found out" about the baby. I just felt like smashing the screen in front of me. I hate misunderstandings. She owed Frank the chance to explain.
Now, on the other hand, Frank was in that room with that woman, right? That was enough. That was his mistake. I'd say it's the only mistake he ever made and I hated the fact that the one mistake he made caused so much trouble.
All in all, I can see why the movie is a valuable piece of work, and I appreciate it's positive aspects, but I can't neglect the anger I felt because of Susan's idiotic behaviour. No, I wouldn't forgive her.