Winchesterland - stronger together than apart - UPDATE where to now?

Ha I saw one of those pics on tumblr and had no idea that Jared and his wife (Red is definitely Gen's color!) had attended since they had been cut out of said pic. Man this fandom is so weird and petty. Thanks for posting this gg. It's nice to see the guys and their wives out and about and what a nice gesture for them to attend the event. Supporting there community and enjoying hiatus. I love it.

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"I knew who I was this morning, but I've changed a few times since then.”

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Adorable. His Facebook post has a longer video!

It was perfection. I'm gonna need a while to recover.😍

I should have looked for you -S
All that's ever mattered is that we're together -D

How am I going to go to sleep tonight? My mind is aglow...

Yes. Copied from http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0460681/board/nest/256834358?d=256841594#256841594

The god of Supernatural was never the God of Abraham. Kripke made pretty clear in Swan Song what was confirmed tonight. The gods of Supernatural are its writers.

Why is it a surprise or disappointment that Supernatural is continuing Kripke's conceit of God as a nebbish writer? Carver's even more nebbish wannabe god, Metatron, even said outright, "When you create stories, you become gods, of tiny, intricate dimensions unto themselves. So many worlds!"

Supernatural is the universe Kripke/Chuck created and left. Then Gamble/Naomi(?) turned heaven into a bureaucratic nightmare and was unceremoniously cast aside.

Carver/Metatron tried to play god to 'fix' Gamble's studio-suit heaven but ended up making things worse with a great big plothole just gets deeper and deeper, for example, Amara.

Tonight's episode with the extensive dialogue between two of the gods of Supernatural may have been just them owning up to the mess they've made and possibly hinting at how they plan to fix it by letting Amara wipe everything out so they can start with a 'clean slate'. Frightening, no?

If Chuck is Kripke and Metatron is Carver, who is Amara? Singer?

I can't help but wonder at bringing in ALL the major players perhaps we are in for a major shakeup

I knew this was coming since they killed Charlie. Love her or hate her she was Robbie's character. I think he was hurt when her demise was given to Brad and Eugenie. They wrote the worse possible script and killed her in the most absurd way. Today is the one year anniversary of Charlie's death. Those that are celebrating may regret it. We are left with a significantly depleted writing staff. Carver is out and now RT. Jenny Klein only wrote one script last year, I get the feeling she is gone too. Nancy Won did ok although her last script was very uneven. Dabb and Berens are the only two left with any sense of the show and Dabb is very hit and miss. And for some reason Berens loves to bleed out Sam. The others have written unmemorable to horrible (duo) scripts.

So yes I am devastated. Robbie was a favorite of mine. He wrote so many wonderful episodes and he seemed to get the relationship between the brothers. Baby and Don't Call Me Shurley are two of the highest rated on IMDB of the series. And I know it is hard to imagine but not everyone hated Charlie.

I wonder if the J's had any sense this was coming before they renewed their contracts and agreed to S13. I am very worried about the future of the show.

edit/ #ThankYouRobbie trended all day today

I didn't want to repost this in the main thread (thanks GG for finding it!!) since the majority of it was there but there are more details in this report so from Asylum:

VIA:sammyhale (tumblr)
J2 Asylum 16 Saturday Solo Panels
*Since Jared and Jensen’s solo panels are at the same time, I combined the information as it was being tweeted into one post to make it easier.

- Jensen says that Sam had kept the Samulet the whole time, says he knew and it wasn’t a surprise to any of us but it was a surprise to Dean. Dean was touched and confused as to why Sam had kept it the whole time.

- Jared got chills reading 11x20, especially about the Samulet. He was very happy about it :)

- Jensen has a love/hate relationship with the Samulet. Says that when he runs he “catches it in his teeth” lol. He picked the Samulet out himself out of a box of jewelry at WB back in the day. He thought it was unique and cool. He liked the Samulet because it helped build Dean.

-Jared talks about Yellow Fever, had to go through intense therapy to get over the snake. Snake wrangler was forcing snake onto JP.

- Jensen said the Samulet is now in Dean’s pocket - apparently Dean won’t actually be wearing the Samulet in the upcoming eps.

- Jensen has no idea where the nickname J-Money came from.

- Jared is asked about playing different versions of Sam. Talks about how Soulless!Sam was sociopathic but logical about who he would kill. Jared says the way he approaches playing different versions of Sam is in the context of what happens in the episode.

- Jensen missed the beginning of the last episode. Fan tells him not to iron Sam’s shirt with beer. Jensen: It didn’t show me spitting beer on it did it? J2 came up with the beer thing, it wasn’t scripted.

- Jared said Sam’s vision of Hell was filmed in front of a green screen with Shackles - “That’s what I call Jensen” :P

- Jared says they put a prosthetic over his eye and then put a hook through it. It wasn’t as uncomfortable as it looked, they used a photo double for some of it.
Jensen says that FBI suits always look nice because Dean takes pride in the way he looks.

- Fan: Spoilers! Jensen: Listen, it’s gonna be a day of spoilers get over it.
Jared talks about AKF and how it helps him as much as it helps us :) Thanked everyone for being a part of it.

- Jensen gives Misha kudos on Casifer, only because Misha isn’t there

- Jared says hiatus beard can be uncomfortable but he only gets one chance a year to grow it lol.

- Jared talks about S1 Jared (regarding what advice he would give him) and talks about how back then he was restless, was a homebody and had just bought a house in LA and wanted to be at home; he thinks that translated a lot into the way Sam didn’t want to hunt. Jared would tell himself in s1 to “play the long game” and to keep going.
Jared: When I have time off I’m boring.

- Jensen says Dean has a hard time with Casifer because it’s someone he hates that is in the body of someone he sees “as a brother.”

- Jared talks about Misha crashing his panel last year with the conga line, said he wanted to join in lol. “It was good to see Misha, doing whatever Misha was doing.”

- Jared’s favorite thing about travelling to conventions is getting to meet new people and seeing the difference SPN makes to people. He finds it amazing. He says when you’re working really hard it really helps to know you’ve made a difference to people.

- Jensen thanks a fan for making him laugh so much.

- Jared: “I can always use some T. Swift in the morning.”

- Jensen teasing a fan: “You need to say ‘*beep* this *beep* I’m out’ and walk away.” Fan: I can’t because my mum’s here.

- Kim Manners put the idea of directing into Jensen’s head.

- Fan asks why Sam didn’t keep Thor’s hammer? Jared thinks Sam’s just a fan of Chris Hemsworth ;) Says that ep was a lot of fun. Jared tries to think of the Sam/Thor ship name. Tham? Sor?

- The first time Jensen directed a scene with him in it, he forgot to memorize his lines. He was too busy thinking about camera angles.

- About Twitter “stalking” - Jared: You’re allowed to watch me on Twitter, that’s “why I Twit…Tweet?” :P

- Jared: Me and Sam are homies.

- Jensen on Jared: “There’s probably no one who lives a life as close as mine.” If he could be a shapeshifter Jensen would not be Jared because they’re already so close in real life.

- Jensen would be somebody who lives on a beach if he could be a shapeshifter for a day.

- Jensen: If you can keep your head in a safe place, there’s a lot of things you can do. Says that there are a lot of things he would like to try but he’s pretty happy with his life. “I’m pretty happy with who I am.”

- Jared: Seeing what Jensen did (Red Meat) was a joy…is always a joy. Says filming that ep was fun but tiring to film, was happy he got to do a “Revenant scene.” Enjoyed watching Jensen’s scenes because he wasn’t there when Jensen was filming them and loves watching those scenes as a fan.

- Jared says his kids were both birthed with help from a mid-wife. Has a lot of respect for that.

- Jared says the awkward Sam/Cas non-hug after Sam gets his soul back wasn’t scripted, he and Misha added it on the day and it was kept in.

- Jensen: “The studio has basically said that Supernatural will continue until we want to tap out - but not anytime soon.”

- Jared is asked about tips to love yourself. Jared: I’ve worked really hard on this, myself and with professionals. I still find it really hard. Go easy on yourself, and forgive yourself for the hard times. Mistakes make you who you are.

- Jensen is asked if he can describe himself in one song. Jensen: “One song?! What, can you? There’s not even an album!”

- Jensen said ‘trolling’ then said that Kathryn Newton will hate that he just said that.

- Jensen on negativity: There are naysayers who have an agenda of being hurtful. But there is so much positivity, amazing community. We need to either help the haters or ignore them. Jensen says that when people say hurtful things in fandom: “90% of that is people wanting attention or needing help.”

- Fan: Shake it off. Jensen: That’s my song.

- Best advice for those taking exams? Jared: Do your best, put your all into it, it will work out.

- Jensen on what he learned about Dean this season: That he can fight three people in the Impala.

- Jensen said he and Jared talk about how they’re part of a family because of the show.

- Jared and Jensen play the best pranks, some good stuff with Rob that will probably be on the gag reel.

- Spoilers - Dean confronts Chuck in the next episode. The writers are happy with the unusual choice Jensen made about a scene in the next ep. Dean cries when he’s talking to Chuck.

- Jared is stumped by a fan’s Scottish accent. “I need Ruth!”

- Jensen about if Danneel had been in The French Mistake: “I have a hot wife. Jared, wait outside.”

- Jared says that filming comedy eps takes some of the weight off of the heavier episodes, like with Swap Meat.

- Jared says if Sam and Dean did a body switching ep it would have to be really well rehearsed. Does a Jensen/Dean blue steel.

- Jensen’s favorite dinosaur is a gorgosaurus. “Look it up!”

- Jared is asked how he’d feel if Sam was LGBT. He thinks Sam is straight based on history, but if the writers write it, he’d be happy to do it. He’s about equality and if the writers wrote Sam as bi he’d be okay with it. Jared: “Just to be clear, Jared is 100% pro-LGBT positive. I am all for love equality.”

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"I knew who I was this morning, but I've changed a few times since then.”

Seriously has there every been a more charming,gracious,fun cast? Damn we are sooo lucky.

🎆🎇🎇🎊🎇

Your reviews - just wow me VM. Thank you so much for the work you put into them, the passion for the show you articulate so well and just all of it.

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"I knew who I was this morning, but I've changed a few times since then.”

Awesome review, Vee! Thank you! 👏

Outstanding review! For me, 11.20 was a slower boil (2 watches) then exploding into a perfect 10 after another 2 watches. One thing stood out on the second watch - there were no extraneous words, nor drawn out scenes and the direction by Robert Singer was flawless. I knew I loved the episode when I still can't get the song 'Fare thee Well' out of my head or the thrilling scene when the amulet starts to glow in Sam's pocket, stunned Dean lifts it out and Sam and everyone infected or killed by the Fog is cured or resurrected.

Fantastic 'Swan Song' Robbie Thompson!

Thanks for the *POSITIVE* review, Vee!
And Congratulations on Grad School! (What was your thesis about?)