Why did this bomb so bad?


Theories?

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Because it stunk

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It's also been a long time since part 1

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Late-August release date.... for a "summer popcorn movie", this is the kiss of death, similar to releasing an "Oscar-bait" movie in March after they're already over. (August/September and February/March are the classic "dumping ground" release-dates the studios stick their judged-to-be-poorer fare into empty theaters just to avoid the stigma of direct-to-video). Anybody going to the theater on August 22 was there for exactly one reason: watching Guardians of the Galaxy (July 2 release) a 4th time.

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Late-August release date.... for a "summer popcorn movie", this is the kiss of death, similar to releasing an "Oscar-bait" movie in March after they're already over. (August/September and February/March are the classic "dumping ground" release-dates the studios stick their judged-to-be-poorer fare into empty theaters just to avoid the stigma of direct-to-video). Anybody going to the theater on August 22 was there for exactly one reason: watching Guardians of the Galaxy (July 2 release) a 4th time.



yeah I think it was that since I did like it


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I liked this film, but it definitely lost the charm of the original. When the first one came out, it hadn't really been done before. Now we have a sequel, 9 years later, several prominent characters have been written out or re-cast, near the end of the summer, after people have spent a ton of money going to see all the movies they were anticipating, by the time this one rolled around people couldn't be bothered.



I think the recasting hurt too why couldnt clive owens be in the role again











Look like Tarzan talk like Jane! HAHA

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Dwight in this film was the character before he got plastic surgery (which the dialogue in the original did reference) so he had to look different. Word was that they wanted Owen to come back for the later, post-surgery scenes, but he was tied up on another film at the time.

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doctorcrimedog ยป 35 minutes ago (Tue Mar 29 2016 18:25:16)
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Dwight in this film was the character before he got plastic surgery (which the dialogue in the original did reference) so he had to look different. Word was that they wanted Owen to come back for the later, post-surgery scenes, but he was tied up on another film at the time.



but it hurts the film when Akio couldnt come back because she was pregnant bull *beep* and I think they waited too long and come on we needed Owen



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Because it stunk


It's always amusing that the noisiest complaints always come from the least imaginative respondents.

-There is no such word as "alot."

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The first one bombed, why would people see a sequel. Studio should have known better.

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What are you talking about? The first one grossed 75 million in the US alone.

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There were more people around the web demanding a sequel to Sin City than I've ever seen for a movie before. I suppose it just goes to show that you can't give the people what they beg for haha, at least not if you're expecting them to buy a ticket. I thought the first Sin City was revolutionary. Second one was decent but nearly as epic as the first. Apparently the only rated R films that can turn a profit are mainly crappy films that appeal to adults on a date :P

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I didn't like the cgi and the too fantastic comic book style.

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Theories I can do. Facts, not so much. So here's what I think:

First of all, it's not everybodys cut of tea. In terms of content, it's a typical dudes film. It's got strippers, nudity, action, one-liners, etc.

It's also special in being, like its predecessor, mostly black and white. It's got the POV characters in each arc narrating their own stories.

So it's special. Not everyone likes that.

I liked it. It's good entertainment. It's not one for the Oscars, and I wouldn't give it top ratings either. What it is, is a great way to get rid of one and a half hours if you've got nothing important to do.

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Nah, your time isn't that important

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hahaha !

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The original had all of those things, but was a great movie, while this one was a Turkey. But the original also had an outstanding script, whilst the sequel was mundane to say the least. No originality, no impact, no intrigue

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I thought the two movies were very similar, no big differences. In fact, maybe too similar to generate much interest. Maybe it's a bad idea sequeling such b-movies. A similar thing happened to the Expendables, though it took them 2 sequels to reach flop territory.

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the first movie and this movie have nothing in common except the style in which they were filmed/made.

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The oscars are overrated. So I guess this movie must be pretty good.

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George C. Scott was right when he called them "a two hour meat parade, a public display with contrived suspense for economic reasons"

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Theories I can do. Facts, not so much. So here's what I think:

First of all, it's not everybodys cut of tea. In terms of content, it's a typical dudes film. It's got strippers, nudity, action, one-liners, etc.

It's also special in being, like its predecessor, mostly black and white. It's got the POV characters in each arc narrating their own stories.

So it's special. Not everyone likes that.

I liked it. It's good entertainment. It's not one for the Oscars, and I wouldn't give it top ratings either. What it is, is a great way to get rid of one and a half hours if you've got nothing important to do.


Yep Perfectly sum up, it is definately my type of movie, the first one was brilliant too, but maybe I'm weird.

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well being on piratebay so soon probably didn't help...

- the black and white thing is not for everybody

- the noir style isn't for everybody

- comic book movies aren't for everybody

- comic book movies with no comic book superheroes are surely not for everybody

- it felt disjointed, joseph Gordon-levitt's role was the only thing that felt fresh and it was resolved very soon and in an anti-climatic manner

- it felt pointless, it was like watching tids and bits of that universe without actually achieving much

- maybe it took itself too seriously, I mean the whole 'she's a succubus controling every man around her' aka main plot, has been done to death especially in a noir movie, it was a cliche by the time who framed rogger rabbit and Dick Tracy was released so there's nothing new about it

- it reached for a sequel, meaning you didn't get much of a conclusion because suckers will surely pray and pay for a sequel so why should they resolve anything already? right? WRONG!

- you know when you hear about those washed up bands still touring? I kind've felt that in this movie, Mickey Roark needed a paycheck, Jessica Alba needs to make a comeback, Josh Brolin needs to make a movie that doesn't bomb for a change, Bruce Willis was there just because he's still a big name, Rosario Dawson needed a paycheck and also needs to make a comeback, Ray Liotta needed a paycheck... the only actor who doesn't actually needed this was Joseph Gordon-Levitt

- How many actors can be considered box office poison? maybe I'm wrong but I would say at least 3 of them... Jessica Alba, Ray Liotta and Josh Brolin

- Then sin city fan base has imploded, 10 years without a sequel makes people feel like they should just move on

- making a comic book noir black&white movie is a trick that only feels fresh the first time you watch it



ofcourse none of these are facts, it's just my opinion so feel free to disagree ;)

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Pretty much everything this guy said.


The first movie had more heart. This movie felt forced and has an almost made for TV feel to it. Most of the stories and characters never draw you in--I feel Marv was present for the sole purpose of trying to tie the first movie into the second, which it does half-assed. The bum story in the beginning was lack luster and time filling and thats all it achieved. The tacked on Nancy plot also felt very forced and contrived for the sake of safety as not to venture very far from the original movie.

For anyone who has read the comics, you know there was more than enough story and characters left to carry another movie or two into something a little fresh and interesting but someone somewhere felt it was better to rehash BS left over from the first movie as a fiscal and creative hedge against what this movie actually achieved: cardboard characters, a cookie cutter plot, and all the taste of an over cooked roast--hard, chewy, and tough to get through.

The reason this movie didnt do well is because it waited too long for a sequel, it was obviously nothing more than a cash in on an established franchise, and it felt like the actors and directors (with the exception of Joseph Gordon-Levitt's story arc) put in the bare minimum amount of work for their paychecks. It seems like everyone involved didnt have as much fun making this movie as the first.

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It seems like everyone involved didn't have as much fun making this movie as the first.


I think you kinda hit the nail on the head there. Everyone from the cast, writers and directors were just picking up a paycheck. They seemed to be exploring a new fun and exciting method of visual film making with the original. I guess this is pretty much the worst type of sequel someone could think of, where everything is just completely phoned in.

Overall just a bad movie and a bad sequel that arrived way too late, that nobody no longer needed nor cared about.

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The story telling in this movie was just bad, unoriginal, and hard to stomach past the one hour mark. The first movie was fresh and I agree had more heart. Also, even with Eva Green added, it was just unsexy.

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Yeah, the first movie was much better. It was character driven. This one had the visuals, but that's it. And it wasn't a case of it "not being fresh." I can sit down right now and watch the 2005 original and it still seems like a 3 star movie. And anyone saying the first one was also a bomb is dead wrong. It made good money.

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Your first comment about it being on piratebay is such nonsense.
No matter where you would watch this film it would remain to be bad and disappointing.

For the rest I don't know what you are on about. The whole appeal of Sin City is the fact that it looks like a live action comic book. Using black and white makes sense since it is a film noir first and foremost. It's not for everyone? What do you base this opinion on? It was extremely well received by a wide audience.

The actors can't be blamed for poor direction and writing. They did as much as they could with very little what they were given.

You obviously don't know what a film noir entails. Almost every film noir title has a femme fatale. It is one of the draws in the genre. Because it always remains interesting to see how men could fall for a bad woman. In fact Eva Green and her storyline is one of the standout moments in the whole movie. A film noir should be in black and white. Noir means black in case you did not know. That aspect of the visuals had nothing to do with being fresh but more of it resembling to the style of that genre.



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I only knew this film was made thanks to a pirating site.

I would have paid to go see it, but no theaters were showing it near me.

This leads me to think it bombed because it had very poor marketing and distribution. That and a 9 year gap between movies.


It wasn't as good as the first, but it was ok.

It lost a few points by annoying me. Characters that died in the first movie are alive in the second, even if they are the best character, that shouldn't happen (if this takes place before he dies, that means someone is alive in the first movie that should be dead). The visuals were not quite as good/striking (Marv/Mickey Rourke looked like he had doubled in size in the face alone). The stories also were not as interesting (The JG-L arc seemed to be pointless filler to get the JG-L fans to watch, started good but ended on a whimper).

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i would have gone to see this, but i was sick that day

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What about the other days?

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I found this far more entertaining than GotG
I'm guessing this will get a new life on DVD/bluray

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My theories, if you care to read:

1) Absolutely nothing was done to improve the awesome look of the original. Sure, this one looked great too, but there was also a helluva lot less colour to juxtapose against the B&W than the original. From memory, all I can recall is green eyes and a blue dress.

2) The original was savage and twisted. Blowing someones balls off?! And the entire sequence with Eligiah Wood?! Plus many others. Nothing in this came close to the sick, twisted story of the original. There were no "HOLY SH!T!!" moments. Mickey also didn't look like he was into it all that much either.

3) The violence was tame. Like I said above, the original movie had some diabolical acts of violence that just shocked instantly. Perhaps it is because it is a sequel, but the action in this felt thoroughly half-cocked. For example: the showdown between Marv and Manute. Talk about disappointing. And freaking SHORT. Miho was also criminally under-used.

4) The surreal feel of the first (ie: the guy with an orange face, Bruce Willis sitting in a cell surrounded by black nothingness, Dwight having a conversation with a freshly deceased Jacky Boy and the subsequent police stop that followed) was all completely shot down, so the movie essentially became a fairly bog-standard action flick.

I think that because it is a sequel, it suffers from the comparisons. Were this not a sequel, rather an original flick, it would probably be seen in a much better light.

I hope I gave a half decent answer - I know at least half the posters on this site are probably about 15 or less ;)

If you (or anyone else for the matter) cares, my extended write-up of this film is here: http://epilepticmoondancer.net/2014/09/28/sin-city-a-dame-to-kill-for- 2014/

I am always keen to hear fresh feedback, good or bad, so if anyone has the time, I love to hear any thoughts

Peace dude, I'm glad you enjoyed the movie more than I did!! :P

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Because it sucked?

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A niche film that only appeals to maybe 25% of the most sophisticated movie goers. When you appeal to the affluent crowd you better make a good movie. This crowd is also likely not interested in seeing sequels. Poor demographical testing.

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i disagree with this theory it was how the movie was made. A good movie is a good movie , but this was not.


The main actors werent nearly as good , or the story lines. The way the movie is shot , the actors that play the parts are almost bigger then the part itself.



Nacys story was stupid , they already made a Girl With Dragon Tattoo movie.


Dwights character is a lesser vers from the first movie , and the actor from the first movie was way better then Josh brolin.


Marv was an actual character in the first movie. In this one he's only there as a tool to kill people, He coulda been replaced with a trained Grizzly bear.


first movie 8/10 , this one 5/10.

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Wow, exactly my thoughts.
And also the same scores I gave both movies.

Jessica Alba was never the gifted actress but in the Sin City universe she feels so out of place.

Rodriguez's spark is slowly fading over the years.

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