MESSAGE? BEATING KIDS IS OKAY.

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I think the only problem here is that you obvously have no concept of what is reality and what isn't and if you think that a movie has the power to suggest things to you or anyone else then you must be a very dumb person.

Who cares what it has in it. If you don't like it change the thing, don't project your "morals and values" as you see them onto others, cause there are plenty of people in this world that beat their kids, so don't try to pretend it doesn't happen.

I'm not justifying the act of beating anyone, child, woman or man. I just think that people who take movies too seriously have got either nothing better to do or seriously pschological disorders.

I repeat, if you think that because there are beatings in this film of children to whatever degree, that this film is awful then you need to get your head examined. Don't hate the movie because you disagree with something in it. Hate the movie because you didn't enjoy it because it was either not interesting or you found the film to be poorly made. Don't hate it because you feel it's your civic duty to point out the obvious and that's something that every rational and civilized person on this planet should know and that's that NO ONE deserves to be beaten, not just women and children, but NO ONE.

And then also this, it's just a movie. I've seen plenty of comedies where there is laughing at someone else's pain. If you've ever watched anything where anyone, and I mean anyone is hurt purposely and you laughed at it, then you're also a hypocrite. You don't have to be either a woman or a child to be excluded from abuse.

I think there is a deeper message that people are missing. I believe he's trying to illustrate the need for adults to get more involved in children's lives. You remember the old phrase, "that child needs his *ss whooped!"

I was not raised as part of the "time out" generation. I got it with the belt at home (when I was bad) and with the paddle at school when I was unruly. Truth be told, I deserved every single disciplinary session. But I, and many others from that time, had and still have a greater respect for my parents and authority figures. Discipline was taken out of schools, children act as they wish, yet today's parents expect teachers to 'raise' their offspring.

Respect begins at home and it's obvious that the boy on the bus and the foster child were lacking in that.

The physical act itself may have been funny or disturbing, depending on your take. But that doesn't take away from the dilemna we face in today's youth. No self-respect, no discipline. No sense of responsibility. I'm glad he showed the gambling and questionable dancing at the family reunion. Where were these kids parents?!?!? My father would have snatched us and anyone else involved.

I put the challenge BACK on the parents. Reclaim your children. Teach them the value of history, respect and unity.

All this coming from a guy who asked several children who the "Pied Piper" was, only to hear the majority reply, "R. Kelly".

Think about it...

And no, spouse abuse is never tolerable, but the bible DOES speak of discipline when it comes to children.

Children,especially unruly teenagers wouldn't be undeserving of a smack on the butt now and then. IF they had been smacked on the butt as a child they probably wouldn't need it as a teenager.It showed that they needed discipline. ADults laugh at kids getting disciplined because they remember it as kids and remember that they probably deserved whatever butt smacking they got.

Spousal abuse is never ok and I think the film accurately portrays that.

This is ridiculous... and lets you know what kind of an over-sensitive and ignorant world we live in today....

Lets ask a first question... Which child would you expect to grow up with the proper set of values?... one who obeyed their parents and built a relationship with respect and admiration? or one who brushed their parents off to the side because the parents had no say in their life when they were younger, therefore disregard and bellitle them when they are older? I would imagine the answer is obvious.

Next question... do you think that the two types of people above were born like that, that they had that personality pre-programmed into their head from birth?
Or... were those two personalities a result of how they were raised by their parents (or parental figueres)? Again... pretty ovbious question.

Finally... How do you think a child comes to disrespect his/her parent so much (either by taking them for granted or disreggarding them)that they no longer respect them as adults? The answer to that is by disobeying their parents when told what to do. All children try to contest and disobey their parents at some point, it's unavoidable, but it's WHAT the parents do in this situation that determines how the kid grows up. And the simple fact is this... what would stop you from doing something bad more effectively?... a nice gentle verbal scolding followed by a couple of hours locked in a room by yourself and then being let go? or a strong verbal scolding followed by a hand of discipline to teach you not to do it again and that if you DO do it again, you can look foreward to another? I answer that with an analogy. If you try and touch a pot of boiling hot water you WILL get burned... and the lessen from that... you didn't like getting burned, so you won't do it again.

That is my case and point.


And as far as spousal abuse is concerned... there is NO justification for that whatsoever. If a child gets beat it's because they are young and do not know better and need some discipline. An adult is grown and knows right from wrong and spousal abuse is most definately wrong.



p.s. people please keep absurd racial comments out of this argument... EVERY race has people who do both types of parenting. White people, black people, spanish people, everyone...

Tyler Perry seems completely unaware of the contradictory messages espoused in Family Reunion.

For example...

One one side it's played for laughs when Madea slaps the kid on the bus or hits Nikki a belt. Such scenes seem to suggest that it's helpful (and funny) to slap some sense into children.

Yet the scenes with Carlos pounding on Lisa are meant to be taken with deadly seriousness.

Conclusion: beating kids is funny, smacking grown women/spouses is not.
Isn't there a problem here?
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It's called discipline you idiot. If only someone had beat you to death as a child, we wouldn't have this problem.

Since many people seem incapable of reading more than 3 posts on this line, I'll write it again:

This subject is not in regard to race so using the argument that you're red/black/green/white doesn't make any difference to the issue.

What really amazes me is the number of people who think that adults who strike their children are successful parents whereas those who choose the alternate non-violent path of raising kids are failures. Doesn't such logic hint at the reason why violence is perpetuated in our society?

Many people use the following line of argument for striking children: they'll write that the reason kids today are "out of control" is because their parents are too light in their discipline and need to return to the "old days" of spanking or belting children.

That's a lame argument and one that's been used for most of the past 100 years.
In the 20's the concern of the perceived "wildness" of youth brought on by negligent parents was one reason used to support the implementation of the Volstead Act (Prohibition). In the 50's, comic books and horror films coupled with "soft-hearted" parents were blamed for juvenile delinquency. In the 70's, society implicated "bleeding heart liberal parents" for rising crime rates rather than economic failures on the part of the government.

Now, in the 21st Century, it's the same old lament: that children run wild with no respect for authority because parents don't physically discipline their children. Anyone sensing a pattern here? It's common for the present generation of adults to believe that the current generation of youth are out of control and without respect for elders. That's just fear talking, particularly when the evidence (falling murder and violent crime rates for the past 15 years) suggests the complete opposite.

So...have I suceeded in illustrating that the argument of many who say "kids today need physical discipline because they're so much worse than I was young" is a blind alley? Fewer and fewer parents use corporeal punishment and instead choose reason and intelligent parenting to lead their kids to become responsible human beings even as violent crime rates drop. Isn't the connection obvious?

who the heck are you to make such a derogatory statement as such?!!!! do you know how big of an idiot you sound, stereotyping an entire group of people? Tell me, what makes someone "ghetto?" is it the way they talk? the way they dress? the fact that maybe they have to struggle to get by? I am black, and I HATE that phrase so much. even when black people use the phrase it iritates me. there are plenty of people who just haven't been dropped into the lap of luxury and are often NEGLECTED by society and labeled as "STUPID." But they're are geniuses in every walk of life. The fact that you even typed those words fills me with so much anger.....give me a standard of "ghetto," and type up a case study of every "ghetto" person on this flippin earth before you make bull-headed statements like that.