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Spike Lee should have directed this


Does anyone else echo the same thoughts? He would've been great to tell the story of one of his idols, being from Brooklyn. I just feel his perspective might be more genuine than those of others

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Yeah, lets have a racist direct a movie about one man's brilliant, courageous battle against racism. Good idea, there.

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Spike Lee is a racist of the worst kind. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

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Spike Lee is a racist of the worst kind. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

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Spike Lee is himself so caught up in his cause that he is unable to correctly portray a movie of this type to any audience. Don't get me wrong I think he has a good cause but he is far too loud with his message. This movie should highlight the triumph of the man despite his skin color and not the triumph of a man that is a certain color if that makes any sense.

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Spike Lee can still do his own Jackie Robinson story if he is so inclined. I'm sure he would bring his own unique style and viewpoint. Based on the trailer, this particular movie looks great on it's own.

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Sorry for the delay. Forgot to even check back up on this.

@MartialHorror

MIRACLE AT ST. ANNA wasn't even that bad---I will admit it did have its flaws--big time---but they didn't detract that much from the main story,and despite those same flaws,I still think it's one of Spike's best films. And racism is STILL thriving like it always has in this country---I don't know what makes you think it just suddenly up and magically disappeared just because we now have a black President----hell,there are still people who have NOT accepted the fact that he IS our President to this day,and never will,simply because he IS black,period.


I didn't say racism has disappeared, I'm saying racism isn't as prevalent as it was during the 90's (where Spike thrived the most). If you like the movie, good for you. I hated it. I thought the characters were poorly written, there were too many unnecessary scenes/subplots and even the way the narrative was framed came across as pointless. To me, it's a total mess.

But if you liked it, you liked it.

I also have SOME suspicions that Spike Lee might be racist himself (I stress SOME). I was always bugged by this plug for that Katrina documentary where he says he's doing "this for my fellow Americans, especially my fellow african americans" who suffered during Katrina. He probably didn't mean for that to sound kind of racist, but I don't get why he had to be so....divisive about it. "Fellow Americans" should be enough.

As for the Clint Eastwood debacle, well,Spike DID have a point there---just because there was segregation back then didn't mean Eastwood had to leave the fact that there were black soldiers fighting out of the film. Hell, he made a pretty good film about World War II from the Japanese point of view (LETTERS FROM IWO JIMA) so why couldn't he have made one about those same black soldiers from their point of view,too? They still fought in the war like everybody else despite being segregated and being treated absolutely like s*** while doing it. The problem I've had with even current World War II films is they completely leave out the fact that not only black Americans fought in the Second World War, but so did Asian-Americans,Native Americans,and Hispanic-Americans (see Ken Burns' documentary THE WAR for all of the above) so that's why Spike made MIRACLE AT ST. ANNA in the first place, because,frankly, you rarely see that in films about World War II anymore.


This bothers me as I can flip it around. Why doesn't Spike make a WW2 movie about Japanese-Americans? They got it worse than the blacks and the only movies I've seen surrounding them are B-movies.

You also overlook that there ARE African Americans in "Flags of Our Fathers". They just weren't the main characters, as the movie followed the people who raised the flag (and weren't black). Also, do I even need to point out that a Native American was a main character of that movie? So that "white man's movie" or however Spike paraphrased it is wrong even if there weren't any blacks.

Spike was only doing that for attention, but as I said, he didn't acknowledge his mistake. He acted like a pretentious ass instead, later blaming the media even though if they misreported anything he would've said so from the beginning.

Part of the reason I think Spike might be racist is he only concerns himself with black problems, not with the problems of any other race. He's silent when Tarantino exploits the Jews in "Inglourious Basterds", but "Django Unchained" is apparently 'offensive'. But once again, I can't shake that "especially my fellow African Americans" line.


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Did you see school daze?

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Spike Lee? No.

I want this to be a good movie, not a patented Spike Lee, over-the-top, pound the message into your head with a sledgehammer, movie. When dealing with racism, Spike treats his audiences (you and I) like we're complete morons who can't pick up on subtleties whatsoever.

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Did you see this movie? That's exactly what it was!

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...Spike Lee cliches, most notably a long ending that passes by at least three natural ending points before it finally comes to the end.


LOL! I don't think I've seen a Spike Lee movie in 20+ years but still I know what you mean!

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I don't think he could have handled a biopic sufficiently with a subject like Jackie Robinson. It would be too infused with Spike's own ideas. That's why Malcolm X was so great - the subject meshed perfectly with Spike's ideas, and the way he told the story was representative of Malcolm's life. With Robinson, it's a bit different, and I think the larger themes would have been lost - Lee probably would have been too limited in his focus.

Someone said he hasn't made a good film in a long time. Yeah, it's been like 10 years since something good came out of him, but Malcolm X, Do the Right Thing and the 25th Hour were amazing, I don't doubt he can make a comeback someday soon.

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The question you should really ask yourself is, "why would Spike Lee be qualified to direct this movie?" If the only answer is that he happens to be black, then you know it's not a good enough reason. Brian Helgeland is a terrific screenwriter (Oscar-winner for the fantastic "L.A. Confidential" and a nominee for "Mystic River"), and a good director (he did "Payback" and "A Knight's Tale"). Spike Lee made one great movie ("Do the Right Thing") and some very good ones ("Malcolm X," "Get on the Bus"), but just as many bad ones ("Girl 6," "Bamboozled"). Maybe his next project, the remake of "Oldboy" will turn out well, but I don't see any specific reason why he should have made "42."

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come on guys.. I never once mentioned race or colour when making this topic. Why must you all assume it's because he's black..
My reasons included that he's a huge fan of Jackie Robinson, who happens to be one of his idols. And that he is in fact from BROOKLYN, although he wasn't old enough to actually watch the man play, the experience he had growing up being a big sports fan in that town influenced by #42, would allow him to tell the story from a 1st to 2nd hand perspective.

And the fact that I happen to have enjoyed his sports themed movies, he got game, and kobe doin' work (although this was more of a mini-feature).

nonetheless, i'm still really looking forward to watching this movie when it comes out this friday.

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@ Sixonenimereymysterio

Good point, lol. You do at least have good reasons for wishing he did this.

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