Fact: It is not the first film to use real dead bodies
There are more than one, but for fact they used real dead bodies/skeletons while filming poltergiest
shareI gotta admit, I watched Unrest last night and I couldn't spot a "real" cadaver.
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Ok......That wasn't even close to funny.
Nacho Cerda (Interestingly, the director of another of the '8 films to die for', The Abandoned) made an infamous 1994 short called 'Aftermath' which uses real cadavers AFAIK.
shareHe actually didn't use real cadavers. Nacho did a behind the scenes doc and showed the making of the bodies. The special effects guy shows how the bodies were made to look so real.
shareYes it was LOL
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Really? Poltergeist? I had no freaking idea.
so this is not the first. personally, I didn't think it mattered to the movie if the corpses were real or not. if anything, it turned me off from enjoying the movie more.
They looked fake - well the one they were working with (Covas) did. But perhaps that cadaver was? I wouldn't know what they're supposed to look like anyway.
shareI don't get what the big deal is about them using real bodies? Did they think using them would make them and the movie cooler? I dunno, I think it's kinda silly. If anything, like the earlier poster said, it would have the potential to make me enjoy the movie less. Just seems kinda, I dunno, disrespectful, even if it was consented.
shareThe main corpse was not real. That's obvious.
"There is no good and evil, there is only power, and those too weak to seek it. . ."
Where's the proof these dead bodies were real?
sharepersonally the use of real cadavers doesn't spark my interest in the movie any more than i already had in seeing it because special effects and make up have gotten incredibly close, and since we've all seen movies without cadavers, we can't really tell the difference so it doesn't make it much scarier. i imagine it'd be a little creepier to film, and if i were an actor in the movie i wouldn't be all that gung ho about sharing a scene with an actual dead body, but as far as the movie getting scarier, it doesn't.
shareHei tai yang 731 or men behind the sun used two real dead bodies: one of which was a cadaver put in a decompression chamber, and the other is a little boy's body in which they cut out the heart. you can tell when they switch from the real boy to the cadaver. also, the parents gave permission to use the body--and were watching as they cut it up--for the reasoning behind the film. it also has a live cat thrown into a room filled with rats that eat it alive and then the rats get set on fire. the director used real bodies and whatnot to help emphasize and make more realistic the happenings. the story is based on the second world war...look it up if you are interested.
Also Faces of Death had some--but most of it was fake, Traces of Death had alot of dead bodies and horrible things caught on film that are real, also the mondo cane movies have some stuff like that, and real skeletons were supposedly used in poltergiest.
***by-the-by...unrest was a terrible movie.
In Men Behind the Sun, the little boy's body was a real cadaver. However, the body in the decompression chamber was not. The crew built a fake floor and blew entrails and feces out of a hose beneath the actor using compressed air. This was explained in an interview with the director.
There were NO REAL DEAD BODIES used in Poltergiest, or real skeletons for that matter. That was a stunt to sell tickets. Blair Witch Project wasn't real either!
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No way! All movies like to have their "little facts" to sell tickets. The use of REAL corpses would be way to expensive and so hard to get the "proper" approval, ( legal and personal ) let alone actors who would be willing to go through scenes like that, it would be almost impossible and too hard to do. Letting the "BIG NEWS" leak and let rumors take over is way more easy and just as effective. Look at Blair Witch
shareReal dead bodies in a movie?
Or even bones from human sceletons?
In a movie?
Aaawwwwwweeeiii,you can go to jail for stuff like that faster than a fly spots a crap!
Even if the mothers and fathers of little boys' cadavers give to the director a thousand permissions (maybe someone will get permission next time to make a little-boy sandwitch!)
Using a human cadaver for any purpose outside of a medical school for the course of human anatomy is breaking at least 20 articles in the penal code,but besides that,it is sick and there is no way a sane person working in the movie industry would agree to take part.
Rumors like that are targeted to stupid mindless teenagers who have uncontrollable desire for everything that makes mommy go "Ahhh!",it makes them feel cool.10 years later makes them feel stupid.
To me,the average adult who likes the art of the moving pictures,gimmicks like these insult me.
LOL! Is that a nice way to say that you agree with me? ;)
shareHei tai yang 731...Japan...watch it, look it up, and not just on what people say on IMDB. You can even tell when it switches from the real boy to the dead boy. Before you say *beep* you should already know to research it.
shareYes, but WHOSE penal code? This is China we're talking about here. Anyway, if you had seen the film you'd know that the little boy's cadaver is real.
shareYes they did. Do some research.
"There is no good and evil, there is only power, and those too weak to seek it. . ."
Yes who did what? Unrest or polterguiest?
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but then this is false publicity, i guess im a sick person, i saw someone dying once but not a corpse and for a sec my sick mind was wondering how would it look, but then again the body looked fake to me but then again i havent seen anyone open
i liked the movie just at the beginning, then the crappy music because i know the thing from the sex and whatever God, cursed or something, but still I didn't enjoy that much, although was ok and better than the last thriller i watch, which was yesterday The Breed.
Soooo no movie has ever used real bodies hmmmm all u guys said makes sense with the law and actors not willing to perform with dead people, would be weird.
You mentioned the body could just be used if is medical reason, so what if is an educational movie then yes?
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Poltergiest
shareIt's Poltergiest II that used some real skeletons, not the the first movie.. It was during the part where they find all the skeletons underground where Kane locked them in.. They were used cause it's cheaper to use Real Skeletons then fake ones..
shareGood gawd almighty. Cheaper? Have you ever checked out the prices to human skeletons?
share No actually, I have never looked into the price of human skeletons.. But if the price of them blows you away.. Then the price of the Fake ones would probably floor you.. Cause in the Documentary for Poltergiest the special effects man said it was cheaper to buy real skeletons than Fake ones... And that's a Fact Jack! hah
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hah Reality check! Well man I don't know what to tell you.. I can tell you really want to be the right one here.. I could care less.. I'm just saying what they said, and the people that work in Hollywood and made Poltergiest II said it was cheaper to use the real thing then fake ones.. So either everyone on the movie set was just dumb, and it was their first movie.. I doubt that.. Or maybe in 1986 things were diffrent from your little fact sheet you have going on there.. Or back then they were easier to come by.. Or maybe through some type of deal they have set up Movie Studios can buy or purchase things cheaper than you or I.. Or in Bulk.. Which im sure they do.. See you can't answer any of these.. All you can do is see what it costs today, and for someone like us.. And the *beep* you're saying has no point to it.. I can see it's a lot of money for you to buy one, and that today it's a crazy price.. But who knows what kind of deals Hollywood has worked out with whomever..
shareOk. You're right. The costs of the props and real bones have no bearing on the matter of which costs more. The only thing that matters is that Craig T Nelson said it was true.
shareIt wasn't Craig T Nelson, and I really could care less about all this.. Look man this seems to really be bothering you.. So I say you take your argument and write all the people involved with Poltergiest II, and let them know how much they don't know.. Try watching the Documentary on the movie to see the part I'm talking about.. I think they say something along the lines of this,this being the prop people that worked on the movie not the actors "We actually found out a funny thing, It was actually cheaper for us to use real skeletons than fake ones." Then when the actors like Craig T Nelson found out they made them get rid of them.. Now maybe this was them trying this amazing marketing scheme. Where 20 years after the movie was made they lie and say that they actually used real skeletons, and sit back and watch the sales of the movie go through the roof.. But somehow I doubt that would work, and I doubt that's what they're doing.. So take your facts up with them.. They're the bastards putting you through this.. ;)
shareI know it's not a movie, but as far as TV goes, back in the 90s, the bodies they used in Beverly Hills, 90210 were real.
Yes yes,and i seem to remember the bodies in Bay-Watch where mostly plastic. Strangely enough,they seem to be still floating around....
Real dead bodies don't float.
share[Real dead bodies don't float.]
Real dead bodies, in fact, do float.. eventually. There is a term called "floater" that is used when a body is found floating in water (or found on land also.) The gases formed within the body due to decomposition will cause a body to 'float'. And the body tanks depicted in the film is very accurate.
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Yes there were real skelton bones used in the Poltergiest 2. It was on an E true Hollywood story. It was done by accident though. It was either orderd or shipped from the wrong company. The E true story went on to say how the Indian guy from that movie was an actuall medicine man and how he blessed the set somehow. The E special was actually really interesting though. Talked about how the whole movie was cursed, and how they used a physic person to help with the film.
shareHey, Sindee0816 if you watch some of the special about the movies Poltergeist they will say that the skeletons were in fact real. Some strange things happen on the set of Poltergeist
shareYeah. And how long did they say Blair witch project and Texas Chainsaw massacre were real? Movie people say alot to sell tickets and dvds. Just my opinion
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I couldn't spot any 'real' remains in Unrest. The cadavers certainly were not real because real cadavers are shaved of all hair to 1) prevent the growth of mold and 2) to de-personalize them just a bit. There was also a lack of using universal precautions when dealing with the bodies such as touching remains un-gloved and that scene where the guy pressed on the cadavers chest and squirted the girl in the face. Anyone who would do these things with real remains is a fool. I also watched the making of on the dvd and was surprised that they didn't mention what was real. If anyone knows, please post.
shareSo... are the use of real cadavars somehow better for the environment?
share[There was also a lack of using universal precautions when dealing with the bodies such as touching remains un-gloved and that scene where the guy pressed on the cadavers chest and squirted the girl in the face.]
Its a film. Characters in films are stupid, this is why they get into trouble. There is no logic or common sense when it comes to what is shown and what characters do in a film.
And actors starting out will do anything to make it mainstream...anything.
I was commenting on the fact that the cadavers used were not real, because you just wouldn't do these things with 'real' bodies. This film claims that 'real' body parts were used, just trying to figure out what exactly was real.
shareI've not watched the movie but I can tell you from my anatomy class that you are wrong about the handling and preparation of cadavers.
Our cadavers were not completely shaven. Where the outer layers of flesh hadn't been removed, there was still hair. I remember specifically pubic hair as the genitals had been left intact for study.
Also, we were told to bring gloves if we wanted to touch the bodies but it wasn't so much to protect the students as what it was the cadavers as the oils and dirt from people's hands would cause them to deteriorate faster and the school tried to keep them for as long as possible (about six months for each one) as it's expensive to replace them.
Universal precautions really only apply to medical situations in the U.S., if they were filming anywhere else and were not trying to pass health codes then those things technically wouldn't have to be followed (although they should).