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As a man, I find this especially disturbing since he's not given a real chance to fight man. I mean, what policeman doesn't check his gun for bullets all the time?
And he doesn't seem to know that a cheating b itch (his leaving fiancee) will always trick you a second time if you let her.

What this screams out for me is KILL ALL THE MEN and LET THE WOMEN RULE

Although the women in this movie don't seem particularly gifted intellectually to act as a 'ruling class'.
Why doesn't he pick up a knife and starts stabbing?
Why doesn't someone make a version of a misogynist pig, like myself, going up to that island and killing everything on it, John MacLane style?



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Many of us found this movie misogynist enough already.

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Nicholas Cage said somewhere that it was meant to be absurd.
I don't get it, he's Nicholas Cage, why play in an absurd movie?





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Damage limitation.

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How can an inanimate object be "misogynist"?

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This film doesn't reflect feminist ideals. If anything, I would say it reflects a misunderstanding of feminism or fear that feminism is some attempt at retaliation against men for years of abuse - for example, a pagan sacrifice of a man would be like revenge for the witch hunts, which was basically a women's holocaust.

I'm guessing this is probably meant to be scary to men who misunderstand and fear feminism, or maybe Christians who misunderstand and fear Paganism. Although, like feminism, hurting someone goes against witchcraft.

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That's one of the things I detest the most about this movie. It seems to be leading many movie-goers to believe that both feminism and paganism, both when occurring in synchrony and as sole movements, are fundamentally WRONG.

Such an absurd idea could not be further from reality.

The women in this very strange remake of a classic (which incidentally has nothing to do with the ridiculous men-VS-women plot the Americans have come up with) are more like femin-Nazis when feminists. They are a group of in-bred, mal-developed, deluded fools who are using the 'Sacred Feminine' aspect of pagan religions as an excuse to never mingle with men. Let's not forget that in most pagan religions, men and women stand equal.

And I don't doubt for a second that truly liberated females do scare the p iss out of chauvanists and misogynists, just as they always have, since the time Christiandom declared men superior to women, and nature inferior to "God".

This movie is hardly an authentic or creditable depiction of feminism or paganism. What it is, is the twisted, bastardized product of men who are terrified of losing control.



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"truly liberated females do scare the p iss (sic) out of chauvanists (sic) and misogynists"

Orwell's ghost must be grinning ear-to-ear!

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I'm willing to bet you regurgitated all that without a hint of a blush.

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This movie is a perfect example of what men who hate women think feminism is like.

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This movie is what happens when a director who hates women teams up with a star who hates subtlety.

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Seriously though, I agree.


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this isn't any of those things. it is a crappy re-make and doesn't make sense with any of the aforementioned ideologies ... those are valid discussions but not based on this film for damn sure. in my opinion.

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just saw this version on SighFi, yeah the original was better.

I agree with most of the above posters that the film is a exaggeration of how regular people imagine an extreme feminist 'pagan' community. Or at least how people imagine they would want to be. In fact I think the imagination is somewhat true for the original film.

OTOH there are a lot of parodies of conservative Christians in film that are taken at face value. When a movie depicts some small towney Bible thumpers forming a lynch mob because someone had sex, I think a lot of viewers just nod and don't see it as a parody.

Why doesn't someone make a version of a misogynist pig, like myself, going up to that island and killing everything on it, John MacLane style?

Ya know OP, I was thinking the surprise second ending should be a right wing President, who happens to have a Southern accent, declares that the sect to be terrorists and constitutionally calls in the Predator Drones to incinerate the island. Cage's last cell phone call provided the evidence.

Hollywood, I smell sequel! Better hustle off to the Copyright office.

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The writer/director clearly came off as an anti-feminist (and I'd say, arguably, anti-woman), misogynistic creep. This film's depiction of women and feminism as evil is about as subtle as a brick to the face.

And to make matters worse, it became obvious to me and my best friend (for all the disgusting anti-women propaganda in the film, it is highly entertaining in an ironic, so-bad-it's-good, kind of way) that the director tried to mask this fact poorly at several points. Particularly with the female cop in the beginning who was thrown in just so they could point to her and say "see, she's not evil!" as an excuse. (I don't even recall her getting a clear name)

As a 23-year-old man who was raised by a single mother (with help from my grandmother and aunts, as my dad left when I was a kid), I have a lot of respect for women, and to be honest, in many ways I consider them to be the superior gender. (Sorry guys) They put up with so much and accomplish so much. So to me, I was disgusted by the portrayal of women as all being evil, maniacal masterminds of male-torture and murder.

And FURTHERMORE, this is my signature! SERIOUSLY! Did you think I was still talking about my point?

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And yet all the films which portray men as evil are fine and not misandristic?
This film sums up feminist in the real world. As soon as someone challenges all the man hating rhetoric we get some women saying this isn't true feminism or if you dare stand up against the sexist feminist rhetoric you're a misogynist who's scared of women.

Where are all these women when the feminist films about women rising up against evil men are made saying the films are made by man hating misandrist who are scared of men?

They're praising the films. I guess when the sexism and bigotry is your kind of sexism and bigotry it's OK. Empowering.

Feminist are hypocrites out to get what they can for women at the expense of men and history and today's society backs that up.

Anyone who's offended by the portrayal of a matriarchal society in this film because they don't like how it shows women need to look at themselves.

If the sexes were reversed in this film they wouldn't be saying how sexist it is against men and if the ending was the same where a woman doesn't take down the evil patriarchy and teach the evil men a lesson but dies and the men win would be screaming blue murder.

Feminism is wrong. You cannot have equality by focusing solely on one gender and blaming all three world's wrongs on the other. That's where feminism fails and is a hate group and why we'll never have equality with it around.

We need to drop feminism and come up with something new and radical that works for everyone regardless of gender.

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You should give this a read all the way to the end, Gambit771:

http://jezebel.com/5992479/if-i-admit-that-hating-men-is-a-thing-will- you-stop-turning-it-into-a-self+fulfilling-prophecy

You might actually learn something. Specifically why this in particular is incorrect:

Feminism is wrong. You cannot have equality by focusing solely on one gender and blaming all three world's wrongs on the other. That's where feminism fails and is a hate group and why we'll never have equality with it around.

We need to drop feminism and come up with something new and radical that works for everyone regardless of gender.

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Where are all these women when the feminist films about women rising up against evil men are made saying the films are made by man hating misandrist who are scared of men?


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All you’ve shown us is that you have no clue what feminism is. Well done.

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Since there are so many willing to argue this being a femiphobia film, i'll take the other spectrum on this. The funny thing is, i know about feminism and the extremist side of feminism (femi-nazis if you will). I was honestly surprised that this was directed by a dude because the type of *beep* the summersisle chicks pull is in keeping with the doctrine of the extremist branches of feminism.

Now i understand that this isn't all feminists, however it can't be denied that there are women like that in the world. Look it up, Lizzie Borden isn't the only one to pull *beep* up *beep* on dudes. There are even women out there today who teach younger women it's perfectly okay to use a cattle prod (it's not an actually a cattle prod but the device i'm talking about might as well be since it has the same amperrage output) on a male's nuts if they even approach them.

Now angling off that, the Male vs Female thing is actually something the director wanted to change up, not for femiphobia reasons. it's my understanding after the listening to the commentary is that he went with a more relatable dynamic vs the idea of a religion vs (which was what the original was doing). Also i don't think Lele Sobiesky (i guess that's how you spell her name) would want to sit in a room with someone who was a mysogynist to do a commentary and joke it up. But seriously though before you go off on this being a feminist bashing film, go listen to the commentary track. It's a pretty interesting listen as to why the director and Nicholas Cage (some of the scenes were changed at Cage's behest) went the way he went with it.

Also, sidenote, i was one of the folks who was hoping that smug lead bitch at the very least got her brains blown out. She really pissed me off and irked me to no end after watching the film that the bitch got away with murder. Also agree with the OP that it makes no sense that Nick Cage's character didn't check his firearm before heading out on the last day. Every officer would do that, pull back the slide to see if a round was loaded, especially if you strongly believe that you're going to have to use it.

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It *is* a feminist-phobic film, whatever "reasons" the director may have used to attempt to justify it.

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Is it really a phobia if the danger presented is real? There are really *beep* up females like the ones shown. I mean that'd be like saying that TCM or Deliverance were films based around a phobia of southerners. However no such phobia has been created because there really are *beep* up people like that. If feminist want to improve themselves they really need to show they aren't associated with those extremist groups. However since they haven't what's a guy supposed to assume?

I get feminism, but since there are so many that are vocal in the feminist groups that basically believe that maiming, killing, or assaulting a guy is okay and none saying that they are wrong and that they aren't associated with those groups, feminists basically give the impression they are all like that. This next part may be a bit sexist but if feminists truly believe that ALL should be considered equal then they would be fighting against those who say that the male should be hurt or murdered.

If anything the guy who made "wicker man" is trying to say he's alright with feminist actions (basically subjugating to feminist will). If not then the ending and alternate ending wouldn't have been what they were. The endings would have been a team of male only special forces assasinating the women of Summersisle if that was the case. Hell he didn't even argue the endings in the commentary, just justified why Nicholas Cage's character didn't jump from the burning statue.

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I was honestly surprised that this was directed by a dude because the type of *beep* the summersisle chicks pull is in keeping with the doctrine of the extremist branches of feminism.


This is exactly how you know a non-feminist directed it, though.

If anything the guy who made "wicker man" is trying to say he's alright with feminist actions (basically subjugating to feminist will). If not then the ending and alternate ending wouldn't have been what they were. The endings would have been a team of male only special forces assasinating the women of Summersisle if that was the case.


Showing your enemy at their worst is a common propaganda technique. I'm honestly baffled that you assume the director must be pro-feminazi because he doesn't end every movie with Seal Team 6 flying out of the water killing any bad women.

A good rule of thumb is that any time you see a movie involving people doing something you disagree with, don't assume it was made by people who DO agree. The likelier chance is that it was made by someone like you, wanting to be critical, wanting to rile up people like you with that reaction.

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Please. Feminists are not actually out killing, unlike say... incels. For every woman who makes comments like that, we have 100 incels who want to legalise raping women and even those who have raped and committed mass murder. All because they can’t get laid. At least those women have a reason to be pissed off at the way men have treated them throughout history.

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Depends on the feminists since there are different categories of them. If it's the 'I want to be treated as an equal to men' camp then no. If it's 'all men are potential rapists and should be treated as such' type then absolutely.

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