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Is this the worst short ever made?.... YES!


Worst short film ever made. Totally stupid, totally gay. I don't know what anyone was trying to do here... but Cunningham's future is over...if it ever really began...

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what is it that u dont like? what did u expect? what made u think it was good in the first place or what made u see it?

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"totally gay" You have a pretty warped view on homosexuality.

#4 A motherf_cking Charlie Bronson
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You are obviously a prat.

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I enjoyed watching it, mainly for the music, but if it was me that payed the £10, I'd feel pretty stupid.

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just watched the video, watched it again, then ordered a copy. it's a MUSIC VIDEO! why such passionate hate over something so easily ignored? personally, i found the whole thing hilarious. it seems so many people (if mtv viewers can be called such) think that just because there's a grainy shot of a mutant that it's supposed to be scary. obviously, chris cunningham and richard d. james have a keen sense of humour. when people realise that the mutant dances and the horror is gone they think it's stupid. i think it's amusing. i remember very distinctly watching mtv put together a collection of controversial/banned videos. around the time that they were calling the video for "baby got back" one of the most controversial videos (with meager reasoning) there is a cut-away for a commercial. just before the cut-away there is this brief mention of bjork's video for 'pagan poetry' which they give a "dishonorable mention" because of boobs and piercings. it sickens me that incredible film-making or experiments in film are relegated to dishonorable status by the marginalized public. it's the experimental sort that usually develop the sort of camera work later used in pop and blockbuster films. they raise the bar of what can be done. ...and chris cunningham's career; over? yeah, i doubt it. this is already earning him accolades in the film community. in fact he's just gotten his first feature length film. if you feel like quipping about film with such intelligent commentary on how "gay" things are (i saw no homosexuals in the film) then i suggest you relegate your comments to films like 'bad boys 2' or 'lethal weapon 4.' i'm sure that the content in these films will test your intelligence to the limit.
...and beyond.

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£10!!

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I'm saving up to buy a telescope.

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How much does it cost?

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i think the problem here is that we wait ages for this to come out. then when it arrives it hits the shops at £15 or whatever. ok, it has a little book and fancy packaging but the vast majority of us (who admire and have come to respect cunningham) feel that it's too little too late. and i for one feel a bit ripped off. i honestly won't dive in head first next time he releases something in 5years time or whatever. unless of course it's that feature film we've all been waiting for, but chris as said he'll never do!!

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A "keen sense of humour" fishthisbig?
My 13 year old sister (who, by the way, is an "mtv viewer") watched this and was laughing hysterically. Real keen ;)

I personally thought this thing was friggin' creepy. It didn't bother me that much until the freaking out and screaming..sortof, and the head bashing.
But funny? Again, if you are a pre-pubescent girl.
Good luck with that.

Much love
xBostin.

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- I personally thought this thing was friggin' creepy. It didn't bother me that much until the freaking out and screaming..sortof, and the head bashing.
But funny? Again, if you are a pre-pubescent girl.
Good luck with that. -

It must take skill to be offensive, sexist, and pretentious at the same time. The quality of Rubber Johnny is what we call "opinion". Maybe your sister thought it was funny. Maybe it warped your mind. I doubt it has to do with her pre-pubescence (and, also, a female at thirteen would not be pre-pubescent).

I hardly think it's the worst ever, I just found it pretty awful and useless. Sure, it can be sceen as a comment on society and such, but then again, so can ketchup.


"Come in," she said,"I'll give you shelter from the storm."

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It doesn't take a keen sense of humor to laugh at something brilliant.
It takes a keen sense of humor to make something amazing, which anyone can laught at.

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This is what happens when something of actual artistic value becomes trendy. Retards like this just don't get it.

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so far as i can tell, the film chris was never going to do is being done. so far as i've heard it's called 'necromancer.' not sure if it's an adaptation, but title-wise it seems very apro-pos of mr. cunningham. hope it's great.

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its a music video. Yes you can catagorize it as a short film, but all in all it is still a music video, but then again i have not seen the entire 30min. I ordered the dvd with the book it cost about $15 or about 8.3 british pounds. i my self am an aspiring film maker/editor and Chris Cunningham is one of the few people i look up to in the industry, just by viewing his work you can really see how much effort he put into a piece. Its not surprising that jer 66 would say this piece is gay, when you would figure he is only looking for the entertainment value in movies such as duece bigalow and american pie. Cunningham's future over? Hell no, this video with his entire library of work has helped make a name for himself as one the most creative and talented filmakers out their. You can clearly see his passion definently lies somewhere between shorts and music videos, and if offered a chance to make a feature lenghth, he might possibly create one of the most visually pleasing pieces in awhile. jer, your problem is that "you dont know what was trying to do here." Cunningham is an artist of the sorts, very talented in visual aid for an audience, whether there is a lack of distinct story or the most generic of all plots, Chris Cunningham's films some of the most fantastically put together pieces i have ever seen.


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unfortunately I have to admit yes lots of parts of this film/music video were LAME ASS, But parts of it were extremely intersting as well. Mainly the ending where he rips his face apart, that was one of the most insane pieces of film I've ever seen. Don't know how they did it

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In an age when we accept nothing but anodine action tripe, comic spin-offs, and a large majority of woefully poor scriptwriting in modern film, it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that a film-maker like Chris Cunningham would do something this adventurous.
I think that it's great that opinion is so polarised by this work. It shows that a genuine talking-point has been created. If everyone just went "Yeah, it's great" then the point would be missed entirely, i think.
I doubt we'll ever see a full-length film from Chris Cunningham because he is SOOOO hard on himself it's crazy...read some interviews with him and you'll see what i mean...
Anyway, i think that the starter of this topic ought to consider offering a more reasoned approach for not liking this. Calling it "Totally Gay" is incredibly disrespectful of someone who poured his soul into something.
What work have YOU put out recently?

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Well, I don't see how he poured his soul into this... but if you say so. What work have I put out? Well I did short films before university, but I quit that because I actually wanted a life. I'm now making 225k a year, at 34 years old, not too bad if you ask me. And to some of you, I'm sorry if you were offended by the 'Totally Gay' remark, I didn't mean it litereally as 'gay', if any of you didn't understand that.

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woooow, you make 225k a year? i'm sure glad you told me--people with money are, of course, always the most inteligent in any society!

sadly, however, someday you'll be dead and your dear 225k a year won't stop that, and people won't remember that you did short films before university. however, chris cunningham will be dead some day, and people will remember him for his work.

if i were you, i'd realize that complete strangers don't give a *beep* what your income is, and i'd stop wasting people's time with adolescent pseudo reviews of "short films."

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Read more about this film, and, for that matter, any of Chris Cunningham's work, and you would quite quickly get the impression that he suffers to make the stuff he does.
His description of the promo he made for Bjork's "All Is Full Of Love" was that, upon viewing the telecined footage, he thought it was going to be an absolute disaster. He needn't have worried, of course, but it does prove quite insightful into the sort of personality he seems to have.
"Rubber Johnny" was made in his spare time, and it was him dressed up in all that prosthesis. Did you know that they filmed a whole outdoor section, during which he damn-near gave himself pneumonia, only for him to decide that it wasn't good enough? I have no doubt that you'll think that is dumb, but hey, you made a couple of short films before uni and now make a load of money (oh, incidentally, who asked you? what's the deficiency for you to have to advertise? Do you drive a muscle car too?).
So in short you obviously did well enough to slag someone off who is pushing a genre forward. And, before you argue, you can take that statement on an artistic level and vent about it, that's fair, but surely you can see the technical merit of what this short achieves?

And i'm betting that this is better than at least one of your films you made before university...so by definition, it's not the worst short ever made, eh?

Much love.

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that is very very sad that you had to value yourself by how much money you make. Its tragic, but much of the time, the people who make more money are even bigger w**kers than the rest of us losers.

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You're an idiot. The "Totally Gay" remark should be taken offense at, whether or not you mean it literally. because out of context, it is insulting to gay people. So either learn a new word for "stupid," or join the KKK, asswipe.

As for Rubber Johnny, I loved it. I though it was funny, too. The intro kinda makes you feel spooked, but when the actual dancing starts, it's pretty hilarious. I liked the end with the exploding face, which was made from prosthetics, by the way.

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i generally liked this movie, it wasn't as distrubing as i hoped it would be but it was still quite interesting and fun to watch, and defeintly not the worst short film ever made

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Chris cunningham is great. I saw Rubber Johnny at the FIFM this week. and its awsome. Is future lokk pretty wierd right. Its because Cunningham can chose is work.

The gay here, If gay is an insult, is you. 225k per years, great .... soooo ... you suck. ho and by the way ... people who can say that their incomes are above 225k, don't looses their time on imdb.com ... maybe yes but they have other work to do ...

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Well actually I do have some good time to be supporting everyone and everything in my life, and my career, while having free-time, believe it or not. I suck because I make a nice chunk of change, at an age that I shouldn't even be making 80k? That one stumps me.

No offense, but it looks like you need to go back to school (from your response grammar)... I am confused on just about every other word.

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How do you live on 80k a year, what do you eat, catfood?

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Okay, the message I made on the other board about you was bogus... You really are a jerk, now I have seen the light. You wanted a "real life" you should have continued with filmmaking/production, not go off to college and have some job that gets you an insane amount of money (225K a year I heard?) and be able to have anything you want... My own mother works a horrendous job as a child service agent (Potentially very dangerous in my area), has worked well over 80 hours some weeks (12 hourse or more on some days), makes only around $30,000 a year, and goes to college, and is never home 90% of the time... And you say you find time for your loved ones and yourself. Well thats pretty obvious for a damned cash-hog like you are!
Word of advise from someone that isn't even 20 yet... Quit your high-paying job, get rid of a lot of your cash, just keep enough to live on and go back to working with film... Then you'll be living... Once you have almost nothing and are living on bare-scraps, then you'll know what "real life" and "real jobs" are like. If you are so talented, maybe you'll make it... If not, tough luck, because you ain't getting any sympathy from anybody I know of...

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Why would I quit on a great life? I had to work for what I have. I busted my ass through high school and university because I knew I wanted to have a real career that I would be able to support my family with, and have extra money, and never have a worry on my mind. I enjoyed film, but it isn't a life I wanted. Why would I pursue something that I didn't want as much as what I have? I love what I do, I love my family, and I love my income. You are the jerk. You are obviously a very VERY jealous person, and seriously I have no time for jealous people.



So you say I'm a cash-hog? That's funny coming from someone who isn't 20. I worked, and am working for my money. What do you think it was just given to me? Grow up an get a life, you have to realize that there are people out there who can make great money and have fun, without being middle-aged! You're not even 20, I'd be focusing more on your future than what I've done, you should be focusing on college or university, and shaping a future for yourself.

30k a year for your mother obviously isn't much, but that is still no reason to envy me. Just because your mother makes that amount, doesn't mean you cant do any better.

Also don't say you're not being envious, I have a lot of older people in my firm who have attitudes like yours, so I've seen them before, and I recognize the attitude.

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Sorry for sounding a bit harsh, but yes I AM jelous, because people who make 10 times more than other people who probably do just as much (If not more) work really get on my nerves. And if filmmaking is just a hobby, I don't understand why you got into it so much to enter contests and what not and win awards...

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Well I entered the contests because at the time it was my passion, but then I realized what I really wanted to do with my life. Key is that it WAS a passion, now it's a hobby. I was entered contests (teen film festivals) when I was, well a teen.

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You would give Schindlars List a bad rating. FU[K You Co[ksucker.

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wtf are u talking about? That didn't make any sense, are you high?

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First of all [ = C
Second of all no, your parants were high when they had sex.
Third of all, WTF DOES THIS HAVE TO DO ANYTHING WITH RUBBER JOHNNY?
4th, shut up. no more. k?
k.

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I agree legokidd.. what the hell does any of this have to do with rubber johnny!!? It's despicable hearing you people argueing like packrats in the middle of November. I'm thir-frickin'-teen, and i don't walk around criticizing people's opinions. I've got a life. And a brain. You can tell because I can spel properrlie.

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If you can write such synopsis and evaluation on your life choices and job then why couldn't you have just written an intelligent and toughtful critique on the film instead of calling it "gay" or whatever. you say your 34-35, im 19 and i would never have started such an immature and disrespectful thread.

How about you right a proper review with reasons, technically and emotionally, on why you did not like the the film, that in my opinion is pretty good. if you have made shorts and experienced filmmaking and criticism then why create this ridiculous thread!!!

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jordan_fielding-1 is one of the smartest people on this board right now.
unlike some people...

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jordan_fielding-1, I've explained myself one too many times on why i said that, if you would actually read other posts.

legokidd91, you have made yourself out to look like the most immature, and stupid person on this thread. I'm sure you are having the worst of lives to be saying the weird things you are, or just have a really low self-esteem, but that's alright - - - people with bad lives deserve bad lives.

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jer 66"Worst short film ever made. Totally stupid, totally gay. I don't know what anyone was trying to do here... but Cunningham's future is over...if it ever really began..."

jer 66"I'm now making 225k a year, at 34 years old, not too bad if you ask me."

parlorus"woooow, you make 225k a year? i'm sure glad you told me--people with money are, of course, always the most inteligent in any society!"

Yeah, Thats what he'd like to think! But honestly, I who only make 5k a year (yeah I know thats sad and pathetic)am intelligent enough to see that this movie is good, disapointing maybee. I was expecting more from Cunningham having seen his earlier work and the 4 year hiatus, I was expecting something a little bit longer and more of a short movie rather than another music video. Still Cunninghams talent is obvious in this video, he is technically skilled in the medium. Can't wait to see what he can do with a feature film and a good story.

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He shouldn't be directing, there is potential for the effects, but not the actual filmmaking. 5k a year...is that even possible to live on? I was making 2k every other month when I was working at a golf course at 15! (But it depends on your age obviously, or overall family income).

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If you have no dependants and can handle living like a rat. Actually I'm going to have to find another job and work 2 jobs, so I'm making 10k a year. But I'll still live like a rat.

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I don't think I can handle living like a rat :)

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One think to not like the film...another thing to attack people personally who do.

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Oh look, it's jerk 66 back again with more insightful and witty comments. God knows why he's still on this board when the people on it hate him as much as he hates the film.

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This is totally insane. I don't care how much money anybody in the freaking world makes, especially when they brag about it. Al I know is that this film was unlike anything I have ever seen before, and I hope to see more amazingly original work come from this Director in the future. SOMEBODY'S got to try to make something new and different...

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Riiiight.... Back to the topic:
I think that rubber johnny was a very strange short, but altogerther satisfying music video.

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I guess, for some people, the art of filmaking isn't about making a s**tload of cash.
Umm, can you post a link to some examples of your films?
I'm sure if they were "better" than Rubber Johnny, there would be a following somewhere on cyberspace, or are they too exclusive?

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I laugh really hard at, and pity your ignorance and hypocrisy. You're the one who started off by calling this film "gay"... What are we, 10? Meant literally or not, calling something "gay" is downright childish.

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I dont believe you have the right to make such a blatant statement as saying that this IS in fact the worst short film ever made. It impossible to say that this is the worst short film ever made because what people like is all based on opinions. a lot of people would say this is not the worst short film ever made and some might say that this is the best short film ever made. You can't inquire it be a fact that this is in fact the worst short film ever made. Perhaps you do not like it because of its concept and how horrible grotesque Johnny is. I believe, although, that you should at least admire the ingenuity that went into producing this film. Its a little bit more than a camcorder filming someone in a wheelchair. I do not believe that you are a 35 year old man who makes a living of 250k a year. It seems highly unlikely that a man who uses such derogitory statements as "Totally stupid, totally gay". Maybe I am wrong. It really isn't the point I am trying to make. the point I am making is. Opinions are nice but why don't you stick to good logic and reasons. They work a little better than running out yelling somthing like, "This movies du-umb! nanana!" How about some good reasons as to why you feel this movie was not worth your time. I will anticipate a reply.


- Johnny Strikes

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You're 34 and still calling things "totally gay"? I don't belive a word you are saying. You're obviously 12 and if you're not, you should think about acting your age.

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you guys honestly sicken me with how phony you are, its a *beep* clip. it has no plot, no point, no symbolism, it is honeslty just a *beep* sick look at the life of mental patients and children with Prageria. how can you jump to the defense of this and say dumb stuff like its art. and that damn phony review of that guy writing *beep* like "its brilliant visual effects" and genius plot summoned into one 6 minute short." it has no *beep* plot. its just *beep* entirely. what did you like about it? what did you find amusing? the scene where the dog shoots lasers out of its eyes?

i may not be up to speed with such an intelligent crowd, but sometimes i feel like im the only person not giving false praise and writing up reviews about such *beep*

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I have to admit that it isn't everything that people somehow think it is. When I first saw it I thought we were gonna see some kind of freakish alien and that we would be left really shocked and wondering wtf that thing was on the video! But once the music started that pretty ruined the whole video right there. I mean the gross stuff you saw against the glass was kinda cool but the rapid action stuff was so farfetched it was like watching an epileptic commercial on tv. And it was pretty damn easy to tell that it was a guy with a big "thing" on his head. Seeing an "unsolved mysteries" type video is wayy better than an alien music video. How gay. Big disappointment.

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for someone to claim how mature they are... jer really takes the biscuit for being a pr!ck.

Its a music video... its creative, could you post some of your shorts online somewhere so we can see them and do some comparing?

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The short film is apiece of ART it is also a music video. since when did putting aphex twin with chris cunningham ever give off something unlike this. the 2 together create a vision of hell or a deranged set of images. i don't understand if you thought it was that crap why you would have any interest in either of them. and if you don't what was the point in watching it?

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Its a *beep* experimental film, for christ sake!! you dont have to understand it!! tis just the impossible editting and special effects (for a home movie....)

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impossible special effects? you clearly have no expierence in editing, because that was not skilled editing.

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