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Who's era would you call more "adult"?


I don't want cheap answers like " it's a family show "

or " it shouldn't have to be.. bla bla "


Moffat or Russel Davies?


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I don't want to give a 'cheap' answer but this honestly sounds like a cheap question. Is 'adult' being used as a virtue here? How are we defining 'adult'?
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Neither. Though, it seems that Moffat at least tries to make it more mature.
RTD had too many "pull my finger" type of jokes to allow anything to be mature or serious.

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define adult?

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In that case doctor who has never been very adult, with the exception of The Krotons part 2, 3 and 4.

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yea Brokeback Mountain....

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RDT was definitely more adult.

There are too many kids and too little real drama in Moffat's stories. Not to mention that they are overall hard to follow because of the disjunct nature. It's like Moffat has many great ideas, but doesn't really know which one to pick, so he puts everything in and adds a kid or two, just in case.

The Christmas special was a perfect example. Was it a story of a little boy or a superguy or an alien invasion or a romance? One couldn't really tell. And it was all in the sauce of childish jokes and felt a bit like "Home Alone".

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Why does having children in something make it less 'adult?'

And why can't something have different elements in?

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Why does having children in something make it less 'adult?'

It doesn't. It's how they are presented and how the story is being presented. In this case it makes me feel that the show is meant for kids.

And why can't something have different elements in?

It can. But there have to be a reason for everything that is in. It's one of the basic rules of writing - if you have a gun in the beginning you have to shoot it before the end. Otherwise it's a pointless distractor.

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But there was a reason for everything in the episode....there was no loose ends anywhere. They may not have been tied up to your satisfaction but they were tied up

And even if they weren't - there are plenty of 'adult' entertainments that have loose ends and plenty
Of children's entertainments that are perfectly constructed

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I will never forgive Muppet for Amy bloody pond. The RTD era was 100 times better than muppets

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Neither.

I would define adult as something I would not let my children watch. Neither comes close. Doctor Who is a show aimed at children that adults just happen to also enjoy, but we are not its target audience.

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RTD was a lot less pretentious than Moffat and knew Doctor who was a daft concept but Moffat "attempts" to (miserably) intellectualize what has always been a stupid, fun show by making its older fans think highly of themselves that this is Netflix Westworld material when it's really, REALLY not.

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I guess Russel's but not by much.

Doctor Who: The Best Christmas Carol
https://youtu.be/5HeZXi4vFgo

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I don't know how anyone can say rtds stuff was more dark...yeah the farting aliens, Peter Kay in a thong, walking fat, space rhinos, scribble monsters are so dark aren't they

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I don't know how anyone can say rtds stuff was more dark...yeah the farting aliens, Peter Kay in a thong, walking fat, space rhinos, scribble monsters are so dark aren't they

Are dinosaurs, joking monsters and supermen any better? I just say, that RTD era feels overall more dramatic for me. And more adventurous as well. Moffat is a very good writer, but not that good as a show-runner. He needs someone to tell him when to stop and not allow him to put all his ideas into one episode. For example I loved "The Library" that was written by Moffat, but supervised by RTD. Just loved it. The depth and drama. And "42", written by Chibnall. Again, depth, drama, good adventure. That's "Doctor Who" for me. I miss it so much.

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I don't know how anyone can say rtds stuff was more dark.

The OP is about which era is more "adult," not which is more "dark." Stop trying to change the subject.

We'll come around to which era is more "dark", I.E. more "juvenile" in due time.

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