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If you want a guinea pig


Please, read this first:

www.guinealynx.info/pdf/GPs_G-Force_UK.pdf
www.guinealynx.info/pdf/GPs_are_great_G-Force_UK.pdf

Please remember:
Guinea pigs can damage their back if you use a ball or wheel for them.
They need a cup of fresh veggies (Romaine lettuce, bell peppers) every day.
The live up to seven years and sometimes longer.
They are NOT a kids' pet.
They need to live in same-gender pairs.
They need a cage at least 7.5 square feet (none of the pet store ones work).
There is a huge overpopulation problem, so please ADOPT!
They are EXPENSIVE to keep!

For more details about care and keeping a guinea pig, go to:

http://guineapigcages.com/forum/index.php
http://guineapigcages.com/
http://www.guinealynx.info/

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Rescue pigs! Do not go through breeders to get a gpiggy!

While I applaud your efforts to not only prevent piggy catastrophe from uninformed owners, but to prevent ill-conceived care for one of the best pets on the planet (I raised and loved gpiggies from 1975-2008), there is a bit of info that you mentioned that may be a tad inaccurate. Not maliciously, nor egregious, but...


Guinea pigs CAN live harmoniously AND responsibly in different gender mixes; the key is the RESPONSIBLE part. If you have neutered males, while a difficult procedure at times (it can be a 50/50 success rate for such a small animal and you have to have it done by an experienced exotics or guinea pig vet. There are very few that really are skilled in this procedure for piggies but they do exist), they can have a grand, long life with a fave female companion or harem. I had a male named Tino (Martinez) that had 4 women at one point, though he was clearly bonded first to his littermate and sister/wife Paully (O'Neill), but did love his mom (Bryan) Leetch, his daughter Alfonso (Soriano), and his adopted "cousin" (Ted) Lilly. Hey I grew up in a wacky home.

Anywhoo, I believe in neutered or spayed (spaying is an even more difficult and complex procedure than neutering, so I generally lean toward neutering, especially when placing with more than one female) animals and am generally against breeding (there are certain exceptions when it comes to re-energizing a particular breed of rare dog or such that has been weakened by poor past breeding or reintroduction of an extinct or endangered species, but that is a whole other story!). But it can be done happily.

In addition, same-gender pals doesn't always work with 2 males. It can be achieved with work and attitude, and both have to be neutered and they have to mostly be introduced at a baby stage optimally. It can be disastrous if not done properly.

Next, my piggish piggies demanded veggies 3 times a day (plus unlimited timothy hay and gp pellets and unlimited cold fresh water), and occasional treats. Vitamin C is a must for pigs because they cannot store or produce it the way rabbits or others can. There is so much that is not learned about gps. Things like poor gpigs cannot throw up because of a "Flap" issue; things like gpigs have an almost identical (98%) reproductive system to that of humans, among other things. People really have no idea how to properly feed piggies, btw.

Guinea pigs SHOULD NOT eat things like potatoes or yams or bread or cheese or meat or high sugar fruits. They should only be fed yogurt in health emergencies and it must be monitored and checked vigilantly. Pigs need to ALWAYS be chewing in order to keep their teeth regular length or they will overgrow because pigs' teeth never stop growing. Their back teeth can be overgrown as well and they can choke on food if they do not get the proper diet. Giving them cardboard or a safe salt/wood stick to chew is a good idea if you know what you're doing. People who make pigs live in wire cages usually ruin their pigs because the flooring usually ruins their poor paws. Their nails must be regularly clipped and they should generally NOT be given baths (though some people do this successfully). It can cause drafts and colds and death; pigs' climates must be monitored carefully, though mine seemed to live the way I lived easily! Pigs need exercise and love, and their litter must be changed often to avoid the ammonia smell in their urine that can cause illness. Do not allow them to EAT their litter as it ruins their organs. A pig's intestines must be moving continuously or they will die of bloat. People should not give pigs people medicine unless you are an experienced pig owner and know the weight ratio and side effects and know what you're doing.

Next, the average age of a guinea pig's life span is actually 6. Most pigs live between 4-6 years, though I have had many that lived to 7 and 8 years and older. A few I know have lived to 10 and a couple to 14, though that is not the norm of course. It depends on the constitution of the piggie and the owner.

In general, they aren't the BEST kid's pet, but that is not a hard, fast rule nor is it fair to say as a blanket statement. I had pigs at age 7 (my brother was 11) and to be honest, I was a better gpig owner at 7 than some were at 40. Next, at my school even before that age I was caring for guinea pigs and gerbils at school...

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"In addition, same-gender pals doesn't always work with 2 males. It can be achieved with work and attitude, and both have to be neutered and they have to mostly be introduced at a baby stage optimally. It can be disastrous if not done properly."

No no no! First of all, two males can definitely bond. It's true that it's easier when they're from the same litter, but sometimes even that won't work. I have two boys that are from different litters and they are best friends.

Secondly, neutering a male guinea pig does not change his behavior! All it does is prevent him from breeding. Neutering works for behavior in animals like dogs because the testosterone is synthesized in the testes. This is not the case for guinea pigs. Do some research.
Source: http://cavyspirit.com/neutering.htm

Finally, female pairs can also fail. Girls will sometimes fight too. Guinea pigs, in pairs or more, will go through a sorting-out of hierarchy to determine who the leader is. Regardless of gender. Sometimes this does not work, the pigs continually fight, and will need to be separated. This can happen with male-female pairs too.

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Respectfully, learn how to read before you comment if you're going to act as if you THINK someone said something to you that didn't agree with or like. Telling someone to do research when they have had hundreds of guinea pigs for 34 years is kind of like telling a veteran surgeon to learn how to operate so they can be like you. Hello. I often learn new things with each piggy and with different exotic vets and was lucky to often have great guinea pig specialist vets. In fact, I was blessed for a long time with a vet in Champaign, IL, Dr. Kenneth Welle, and his wife Dr. Mary Welle. Ken was so good with not only regular guinea pig care, but he was an excellent diagnostic vet and often was well versed in the newest care and diseases in piggies. He also was an excellent dental surgeon for piggies. He did it all and still was great with other animals of all kinds.

If you would have read CORRECTLY, you would see that the person said ONLY same-gender pairs to which I CORRECTED and RESPONDED with it DOESN'T always work. I didn't say NEVER nor did I tell anyone what to do. I have had male pairs that have worked and some that have not. NOTICE the word SOME. Not ALL. It is IRRESPONSIBLE for you to say that they always work, if you think that. That's why I said it is OPTIMAL (which means it would be easiest and best!) if you do it in baby pairs or littermates or younguns before they go through changes. I have had unrelated male pairs that worked and a papa and son that worked for years, especially because they grew up together and previously had shared some "women." In fact, that is actually rare, because when you mix 2 males with a harem, it sometimes goes south because they are competing. Some males work well with each other and bond as if they are partners, like 2 male lions who belong together and work together to protect their territory from interlopers.

Secondly, as far as neutering goes, it is not only the responsible thing to do where breeding is concerned, but it serves SEVERAL purposes. Many neutered males tend to live longer, have less instances of anal impaction, and have fewer medical problems that result (not ALWAYS, but TENDENCY; also, that is also IF they survive and thrive after the surgery. It is serious surgery, though can be quite simple to recover if you are a good "slave" to your pig and help them recover properly.) The neutering is NOT just the testes are drained but also cutting of the "chords" that lead to sperm production. I don't need to do RESEARCH smart a**. I've LIVED it and been involved from beginning to end on TONS of male neutered pigs and NON neutered males and been involved in the process with every type of mix of pigs and pairs and families and unrelated co-minglings there is. I can send you reams of papers on it too, but that's not the point. I appreciate you giving reading material and I ALWAYS read on piggies and other animals to keep up with the latest and try to watch as much video as possible along with LIVING it in real life. Okay??????????

They do not change their behavior completely. I never once said that. I said it is easier to put two males together neutered because there is less aggressiveness that results. My neutered male pigs didn't change their regular personality. They were still lively, nutty, and still had a big sex drive actually (which docs said would change). There was still flirting and mounting. The aggressiveness is what changed. Not complete transformation mind you, just a lessening of the somewhat aggressiveness. I've often actually found that the male pigs are nicer than the female pigs over the years. But that is a different issue. Where did I ever say IT CHANGES THEIR BEHAVIOR AND THAT THEY BECOME DIFFERENT PIGS? Besides it is WRONG to say that it doesn't alter them at all. It does. Just doesn't take away their personality.

Next, on the female pairs, duh! Nothing ALWAYS works. They have individual personalities, and sometimes even family that is separated a long time and then reintroduced sometimes leads to disaster. SOMETIMES. I have had grandmas, greatgrandmas, mamas, daughters, sisters together with great results, and sometimes poor results. It is often like lionesses in the social order, hence the "sorting out" you mention. Alpha and lower order pigs also know their places. I have had a few that never could co-exist peacefully and others that immediately bonded.

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tl;dr
you complain too much
Stuff it.

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Gamesmith, Was that directed at me? WTF are you talking about? If not, nevermind. LOL

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thank u for this valuable public service announcement!
also make sure that you cuddle them a lot because they are very adorable and caring animals!!

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They need to live in same-gender pairs.

someone's always trying to push the homosexual agenda!

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Massive disagreement about them not being a kids' pet. They are the perfect kids' pet. I grew up with some very happy guinea pigs. They don't bite (unlike hamsters etc) and don't kick (unlike rabbits). They are a great size for a child to have on their lap and stroke and they purr when happy, weep when hungry, chitter when angry, easy to understand in that regard. They rarely fight and if they do it's probably not going to be worse than barging into one another (unlike most mammals which draw blood).

They do not need to live in pairs if regularly interacted with. An individual guinea pig will bond with its owner(s) FAR more and become FAR more tame and trainable. From experience having quite a few guinea pigs, some alone, some in pairs, the pairs are much more feral (though it's not an issue, just can be a bit frustrating trying to get them to stand still to clip their nails).

7.5 square feet is a massive over estimate. For a closed off run with zero interactivity sure but if you've got it fairly open and have them out to run about regularly this is quite frankly *beep*

Ok now this is absolute crap. Water, Hay, Pig food, Lettuce... You can't be talking more than £15 a month.



Owning a pet is effectively slavery for your amusement so don't bother taking the moral high ground. If the pigs purr not weep or chitter, you're good.

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Why are they expensive to keep?
Cheaper than a cat and way cheaper than a dog.

I had two as kid too. Wouldnt want ones as adult. Prefer more responsive animals now.

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