They Did Not Defeat Harvard....
It was USC...why does Hollywood have to make up such lies???
And why take a true story and make it something false?
Please. It was a movie. Stop trying to insult each and every black movie and what it stands for.
-a white woman.
"Please. It was a movie. Stop trying to insult each and every black movie and what it stands for."
-I'm sure it was an entertaining movie, but to claim that it's a 'based on a true story' is pretty far fetched. At first the alumni of Wiley claimed it was Oxford that they had debated and beat (they claimed this for years). Then the rumor morphed into Harvard and put into the movie (although they knew it wasn't true). Now they're saying that Wiley beat the 'national champion' USC debate team, but who did USC beat that year to earn that title? Back then debate teams barely had the resources to debate teams in their region let alone teams on the other side of the country. Did Wiley beat USC? Probably. Was USC the 'national champion' of debating that year? Highly unlikely since they never really debated Harvard, Yale, Northwestern, Princeton, M.I.T. (yes they had a team), etc. Was USC the best team in the Southwest that year (Wiley's region) and did Wiley beat USC? Probably, but saying they beat the 'national champions' is a huge stretch!
In my mind, that's the equivalent of making a 'true' story of the Battle of Gettysburg to show to southerners in which Pickett's charge was successful and the Confederates won the battle. 90% of the movie would be historically factual, but the most important part, Pickett's charge, would be fabricated by the producers and financiers.
I like how you try to diminish the accomplishment but saying they "probably" beat USC in reality. They DID. There's no probably. And USC was the reigning champion. That's been written. Reigning champions.
share"I like how you try to diminish the accomplishment but saying they "probably" beat USC in reality. They DID. There's no probably. And USC was the reigning champion. That's been written. Reigning champions."
'Reigning champions' according to whom? Who did USC beat that year to earn that title? During the Great Depression some schools probably didn't even field teams.
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"Again, Wiley beat a debating team from USC, not the championship team.
Beating a NY team is NOT the same as beating the NY Yankees. But blacks and their liberal enablers don't want truth; they want platitudes for the wonderful black people - who they refuse to live with."
-True. There are different levels of competition in everything. Harvard, Yale, Dartmouth, etc. were (literally) in a different league than Wiley.
Example, in American football Appalachian State was the D-1AA 'national champion'. But, there is also a D-1A, D-II, D-III, and several smaller smaller division 'national champion'.
To claim that Wiley was on the same level as Harvard was simply ludicrous and Hollywood gone mad.
The Great Debaters needs disclaimers as to the fictive nature of its
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But what is fascinating is how black people have the need to buy into the lie. They are so used to white people smiling at them and telling them what they want to here that it comes as a shock to their system when a white tells them the truth.
At my firm, I've had the pleasure of firing blacks. They invariably fall back on their blackness, after which I show their asses the door. We can't afford to employ morons. There is the federal government for that.
What "lie" to African-Americans 'buy into?'
What "truth" do Caucasians need to let us in on??
You're right about one thing: The Federal Government has many "morons." Bush is literally the first "Special Needs" person to be elected President.
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The lie that you are capable of functioning in civilized society. Most of you cannot, which is why cultured blacks can't live with you. We smile at you, but in the privacy of our living rooms, we think most of you are savages. Even liberal whites think this, though their smiles are the widest.
Stop, look around your home, look outside, then realize that 90% of white people live way better than you. There is a reason for that.
Define a "civilized" society. You can call Blacks "savages," but the reality is, we've never gathered a high number of Whites and put them in boats, and shipped them to another country. "Savage" wouldn't even be the appropriate term for such behavior.
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Okay .... thanks.
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Greatest title for a movie ever. Everyone in here seems to be a 'Great Debater'.
shareReigning champions is a statement quoted from articles about the topic. The NY Times being one of them. If you're disputing it, where do you get that they weren't champions? Where's your source for that statement?
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You lie here so I don't know why you have a problem with something else you view is a lie.
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If you choose to ignore the possibilities I brought up already then that's your choice. I'm not going to go into it all again.
But my question to you is why do you need to lie here when asked how many names you use? Oh wait, the original question was asked to willow and not uggs right? Why do you lie? Answer that.