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French, German and Scottish?


I'm fairly certain that there were more than three nationalities in the trenches. Shouldn't that read The Allies and the Germans?

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You're right not to believe it. Believe instead that this has more to do with the politics of 'UK' film-making, which seeks to write the English out of the historical narrative altogether (except when they need a scapegoat), than anything else. This is a cry-fest for the modern age, and with Scots anxious as always to be portrayed as victims, concealing the many privileges they enjoy, they would naturally want some of this.

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"I'm fairly certain that there were more than three nationalities in the trenches. Shouldn't that read The Allies and the Germans?"


This was a small particular sector in the western front. Simillar truce were in effect in other sectors with other nationalities.

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German units were identified as Prussian, Hessian, Bavarian, etc. The main German speaking characters in the film were Prussians. They should be called Prussians - which they would have been in 1915. The British troops in the movie were Scottish. But to call the British troops Scottish, and not call the Germans Prussian is historically incorrect.

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pretty sure the Germans had allies too.

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