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God, what a disgrace to Chinese film. This movie is so bad it's turing into a comedy, like "House of flying daggers". Chen Kaige & Zhang Yimou have totally lost it into hollow and pretentious visual piece of crap like "The promise" and "House of flying daggers". Well maybe it fits best in the market full of Supermans and Spidermans.

The hope of Chinese movies are left in Jia Zhangke ("Platform", "Unknown Pleasures", Jiang Wen("In the heat of the sun", "Devils on the doorstep"), Zhang Yang("Shower", "Sunflower") and co.

And thanks for the memory, Yimou and Kaige!

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I laugh at certain scenes too when I watch the film in cinema, but I still like it.

Why must films from china always have to be serious?

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I'm gonna put in my two cents regardless if my opinions have already been stated by someone else = )
Regarding Zhang Yimo, I think his older films were directed towards a totally different audience. They were more expressions of what he was thinking at the time, and were targeted at a probably mainly chinese audience. Movies at that time probably covered similar subjects. These movies were also more 'artistic', in the sense that they used no special effects and only caught people's attention because the stories were well crafted, and captured emotional events well.
His more recent work like Hero and House of Flying Daggers, were probably produced with a international and/or western audience in mind. I.e. he used actors/actresses that are already pretty well known, like Jet Li and Zhang Ziyi. While those movies certainly had their strong points you have to admit the plot was never really as well written, and the main attention grabber was a tragic love story. Whereas his older movies were probably more focused on an entire group of people reflecting on larger scale very human issues.

I think the same can be said about this director, but having watched this movie it did seem pretty ridiculous hahaha. It is definitely not as well done as Hero or House of Flying Daggers, but very much in teh same vein. However, I think if you don't take it too seriously it can be a fairly enjoyable event.

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no one said it should be serious
but this movie is just nothing but a piece of sh*t
it even can't be called as a "movie"

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this movie sux

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a disgrace to Chinese film
unbelivable weak love elements, horrible extensive uses of actions and crappy CGs
deserves a 3.2 rather than 5.2 in Imdb rating

and forget about the Golden Globe nom.

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its nominated for the best foreign film for the oscars... imho... dont think it should be there.. and it seems that the ratings dropped to 5.1 ... how low can u go for the most expensive chinese film...

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*SPOILER*

You think about the end, the whole point of the movie suxs. At the end, a heavily injured Kunlun decides to take Cecilia Cheung back in time. Man, the fella can still sprint faster than time after like, being fatally stabbed? LOL. Why didn't he do that in the BEGINNING and stop wasting our 2 hours?

Oh yeah, it doesn't matter, those dead people will start walkin' again.

So waht matters?

Comedy!

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>*SPOILER*

>You think about the end, the whole point of the movie suxs. At the end, a heavily injured Kunlun decides to take Cecilia Cheung back in time. Man, the fella can still sprint faster than time after like, being fatally stabbed? LOL. Why didn't he do that in the BEGINNING and stop wasting our 2 hours?

He didn't have that black feathered cloak at the beginning.

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Yes,my god,this is a sorriness of our Chinese film!

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I think this could actually be a pretty good TV movie or scifi channel miniseries. but yeah, a full-length theater film it is not. I liked the Lady of Fortune though, she was exactly as I pictured what Chinese fairies would look like. I thought they copied a bit of the look of the Lady of the Lake in Merlin though.

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LOL u people are too frekkin funny with your pretentious inttelectualisms, but heres the score..NOBODY but the ten Chinese nerds who posted here cares about your "tearjerkingly beautiful" scenes, if it comes from China we want hardcore kung fu action, preferably w/o wires, and maybe a pretty but viscious china doll thrown in, and thats it! nothing else! All your new "a movies" like crouching tiger and all the follow ups are just boring *beep* with bamboo in the background.
When it comes to feelings, its like Homers asaying about Chili con carne..less artsy, more fartsy please!
And about Golden Globe and American film awards..LOL the only award that can rival the oscars in ridiculousness is the Nobel litterature prize..what a joke!

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sorry to say that But I think you don't really understand Chinese culture histury and art.

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I saw it last night. Some flows here and there, but... We are so used to see high-end movies that show amazing special effects today and tell all the details of the story. This movie may not have the same finish, but its quality is somewhere else: poetry and unpredictability. I thought first I wouldn't liked it, but then I decide to loose my western expectations and go for the ride. It was fun then!

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Believe me when I say I wasn't sure what to do with my Eastern expectations either. This was very much Anime, hardly any solid Chinese culture, except for maybe the scenes in the beginning with the Lady of Fortune, which I must admit, reminiscent of stuff in Liu Jai or Sai Yau Kei (liao zhai & shi you ji in pinyin-I just like to romanize in cantonese :P)

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This movie just opened in Thailand where I saw it last night. I don't speak Thai, so I had the unique experience of watching the whole spectacle without understanding a word. I also had no idea what kind of movie it would be before I walked in.

Early on, it was evident this was a Chinese fable and so I had to give artistic license to all the fantasy, strange plot twists, fairy-tale acting (like a Chinese opera), etc., that I was about to see. It put me in a right frame of mind not to expect the usual (Hollywood drivel).

Even without understanding a word, I was mesmersized the entire two hours by the visual magnificence and cinematography of the movie. It was easy to soak in the mood in virtually every scene, from the humorous to the heartbreak.

I enjoyed it, and even more so, when I got on the web today to get a synopsis of the plot. I'm amazed at how close I was to getting the details of the plot--all communicated by the non-verbal elements of the movie. I would say that, alone, makes a good artistic work.

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yeah I agree with you regarding the visual part. Though the whole plot itself is absurd, at least the visual part is worth to see. Still i don't think it's a good movie though.

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the visuals,cinematography is beautiful enough for me,hence,i consider it as a watchable and entertaining movie.

as for the story,i haven't finished it yet,since i had to go home from the office,where i watch the same on video and i just bought a dvd copy of it for my collection, as i have learned about this movie and there are many good reviews than bad ones.

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Agreed with you guys. The visual is very unique, despite the rough CGI. I'm quite surprised that it seems so many Westerners don't like this film, judging by the threads here on this board. This isn't a masterpiece, but more of an attempt at making an aesthetically unique entertaining flick. I've never seen a film like this (visual-wise speaking) before, and that worth it, IMHO.

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You are right, promise and house of flying daggers are surely worst chinese movies in these years, I feel like they watched too much anime and fantasy and tried to create something similar but they ended up having made a movie talking crap.

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I guess someone else watched too much anime and can not even distinguish what's art and what's crap, as well as they are too intolerance to see any creation to the traditional way movie are shot.

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yeah everyone was really dissappointed with this one, especially considering the high artisitic quality of his earlier work, things like "Farewell My Concubine" which could rank for a modern classic, seems like the only logical explanation for this is that Chen needed money really badly, or why else would he make something like this, something that is so completely opposite of the styles of his past films?

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Why do I care the director wanted to change if it's a piece of garbage?

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Virtually everyone in China agreed it was garbage, whether those who watched pirated version w/o subtitles can understand the story I don't know.

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and after watch kekexili
I put Chuan Lu in the list too.
And yes, thanks for the memory
even tho I Kaige is always a pretentious punk. (wellz, maybe with the exception on Farewell my Concubine)

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