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You know you are a Fundamentalist Christian When.....



10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

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There are only three things that seperate 'Fundamentalist' and 'regular' Christians:

01. If you're OFFENDED by the concept of evolution and the notion that the Bible isn't literally true.

02. If you think Harry Potter (and other similar material) are from the Devil.

03. You have little to no tolerance of anyone with a different religious belief.

If you have at least two of the three traits, you're a Fundamentalist. (One, you're conservative).

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Some of the minds past and present lived their lives has fundamental Bible believing Christians. Surely these "intellectual people" would be cultured and bright enough to see through the bs of Christianity.

The biggest fault of people today is that they make generalizations about people. Everyone is guilty of this and everyone should focus on people from an individual basis.

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Probably someones already said this, but i may as well say what i think.
By the way, i'm 17 years old and a christian. To you this probably does nothing for my credibility but oh well. Please argue politely without insulting my intelligence.

"10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours."

Well put yourself in our position. You are convinced, for reasons, that there is a personal God. Would you deny what you believe is wrong and be annoyed if someone denied your 'absolute truth'? Thats my point of view, and isn't really that strange anyway. Also it is said that the progression is from many gods, to one God, to atheism and then ending up at nihilism, a belief in nothing.

"9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt."

Kind of random statement. There is no denying that we have mortal flesh and blood bodies, but there is another side to it. I beleive we are more than matter, and we have a spiritual side. We are created in Gods image, and not just in looks. Of course I can't prove this, but the claim we come from dirt does not dehumanise people. While evolution on the other hand brings people down to animals, and we wonder why we run around like beasts in the field.

"8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God."

Hard to wrap my head around that as well, but the triune isn't multiple gods, it's the one thing.

"7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!"

I will of course be disagreed with on this point. I believe that those people, if given the chance, would never have chosen God. Had they lived, i believe, that the implications would have been far worse. This answer won't probably satisfy you but that is what I believe. Also, there were less deaths from the spanish inquisition than there were per day in the soviet union. And why should you even care about nerve endings getting destroyed anyways.

"6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky."

God enters human history in human form. We deny Hindu and Greek claims because we, through other reasons, believe that they are wrong. This is kind of like saying 'muslims believe in a god, and you deny it, but you believe in you God.' Which is really contradicting much.

"5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old."

I don't really follow what tribesmen your talking about. The point is the age of the earth has not been proven. Carbon dating is unreliable. This age of earth debate is for another argument at another time.

"4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving.""

Nope! Our religion IS definately exclusive. Loving, but exclusive. But we're not excluding you. God isn't excluding you. It is completely up to you wether you want God or not. God has given you free choice in the matter.

"3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity."

Well there's the argument of proof versus experience. I can't fully prove God, but i experience a relationship with God. You assume the guy doing the strange tongues thing is insane, but you will never know. Oh and those areas of science have not disproven God yet. another argument another time.

"2 - You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God."

That's pretty accurate. I suppose the will of God doesn't incorporate you praying to win the lottery! I believe that an all knowing, immortal God would be a bit more adept at answering prayer than a human. All prayer is answered, with a no or a yes. Most people believe in a form of religio - magic, in that the supernatural forces will somehow work for themselves.

"1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian."

This is a very good point. Many people just accept their parents belief without searching for the truth themselves. I, and many others, have found the truth, but I will not stop educating myself in this area. This is also true the other way round, as many people accept atheism becuase it is force fed in schools everywhere. Of course this doesn't prove anything, just that this problem is not just restricted to christians.

All in all, this discussion won't convince you to change. That's between you and God. My question to you is, why should you care? Why should you care about genocide? Where is your reference point to morals?

God bless,
Sam

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I think I am a fundamentalist Christian-so let me see wether you have got it right

10-I dont DENY the existence of all other gods-I only call them demons. And I dont feel outraged when anyone denys the existence of my God.

9-I dont find evolution dehumanizing. As a Christian, I would accept it happily, if only there was evidence to support it.

8-I dont laugh at polytheists.

7-Allah never commited any atrocities-cos he is just a fictional character (or if he's a demon, he's too weak to do anything). And I DO flinch when I read about OT atrocities. But I accept that the God who created life has the right to take it away anytime He pleases. He does not do it gladly, but sometimes He has to do it for a higher purpose.

6-I dont laugh at Hindu beliefs in incarnations and Greek beliefs in virgin births. Theseare all shadows of the substance in Christ-a historical character who is the antitype of these mythological figures.

5-I think the Earth is 4.5 billion years old. I believe that Genesis is the word of God, but I'm not sure how to interpret it.

4-No Christian believes that all those who disagree with them go to Hell. Hell is simply the state of those who willingly reject Christ, after knowing the gospel. It is not a torture chamber-the suffering in Hell is simply the result of not having the presence of God.

3-I'm currently doing a Masters in Physics and I'm planing to go on to graduate studies. I love research. I also have the Holy Sprit in me and I speak in tongues.

2-I believe all prayers are answered-I cant prove that by evidence. I take it by faith.

1-I'll wager I know far more about the Bible, Christianity and Church History than any atheist or agnostic. But Christianity is not about knowing about some abstract things-Its about following Christ.

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10 - We laugh at man-made gods. We worship the Creator of the universe.

9 - Evolution is impossible due to sciences very own laws. Matter can not be created nor destroyed. Evolution is not science, it is a religeon. I choose to believe in 1 probable possibility, rather than an infinity of possible probabilities.

8 - There is only one God in the proposed trinity. It is also man made and not biblical. It only separates God's influence throughout time. Old Testament=God
New Testament/Present=Jesus/Holy Spirit.

7 - God may propose his wrath however he wishes...he is God. The difference is that we don't kill in the name of God. In fact Jesus addressed this issue quite a bit during his tenure upon earth. Even to the point where he asked God to forgive those whom were crucifying him at the very time he was in the most pain.

6 - As I said before we do laugh at man-made religeons. Mary was not impregnated by the Holy Spirit. There is no fact to that claim. She was given a baby by God just as Sarah and Hannah had been before.

5 - I don't understand this point...

4 - Our religeon teaches truth. Being saved is the easiest choice a man can make, you can do it anywhere, you can do it anytime. It is arrogance in the face of God that makes him intolerant. Much like this post in fact.

3 - This is a false claim and is only stated for shock value. It is also boundary for mocking the Holy Spirit which is said in the New Testament as being the unforgivable sin.

2 - This is also a false statistic. God will do his will, but men can intercede IF THEY HAVE FAITH... If you do not believe this, then you are foolish. Moses interceded for Israel and actually changed God's mind, he was going to destroy everyone. I was in a prayer circle once at my church. There were 5 prayer requests, and all five miracles happened within a week.

1 - I will happily talk with any athiest and agnostic about my God, and my beliefs. I also applaud their research into finding absolute truth, but what I will say is never let the actions of a "proposed christian" be the deciding factor in your belief. Sometimes foolish christians can be the worst enemies of God's kingdom.

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9 - You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

there is actually no evidence what so ever we evolved from other life forms none what so ever scientist have said on many ocastions that its simply a theory.
- You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky
the bible doesnt really say the holy spirit got mary pregnant it says he came apon her and she was pregnant.
You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
in my experience. the % of preyers that have came true was closer to 100% more like 90% the ones that havnt were the obvious. like preying for a billion dallars.. or something that isnt very important..
some of the ones that have came true were viewed as highly impossible..

for instance my neice who had 90% of her colon removed from having pallups.. she had pullups come back and the doctors were going to have to remove her stomach and fashion a new one.. and it was a definate have to.. but after preyer the next time she went to the hospital all of her pallups were gone. her doctor even said it was a miracle.

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11. You cherry pick from the Bible to excuse hate against homosexuals, while choosing to ignore the part about stoning people to death being ok: http://thebimboboy.blogspot.com/2012/08/religion-doesnt-excuse-homopho bia.html ;)

Dennis Alexis
http://dennisalexis.com

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