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What a disgraceful piece of garbage


So last night I'm wrapping Christmas presents and I turn to FX on the TV.

"Oh, Christmas with the Kranks. I've never seen this," I think. "Maybe I'll give it a look. After all, I heard it was based on a John Grisham novel."

Two hours later I almost ripped up all my wrapping and returned the gifts to the store. I was that angry. I wasn't angry at the horrible quality of the film, or the fact that it wasn't funny. This is, after all, a modern family holiday comedy-- they're a dime a dozen and they're almost universally awful. I knew to expect that much.

My rage was directed at the message this movie sends. In the film, conformity is not only celebrated, but strictly enforced. Societal pressure turns what seems like a perfectly rational idea from Luther, skipping Christmas, into some kind of fiendish, selfish plot to spite others and ruin everyone's holiday.

Until I saw this movie, the worst Christmas movie I knew was "Jingle All the Way," which, though basically about crass Christmas commercialism, at least slightly redeemed itself in the end when the young boy rejected that notion in favor of his family. Now, the worst Christmas movie I've is "Christmas with the Kranks." Congratulations on "topping" yourself again, Hollywood.

But why should anyone be surprised? This movie is part of the big machine that tries to convince you that you are a terrible human being if you don't shell out thousands of dollars every December, not only by buying flat-screen TVs for your teenagers and baking 600 cookies for everyone you know, but by being forcibly extorted by a dozen different charities pushing the idea that somehow, causes are more needy at Christmas time than any other time in the year. Never got the logic in that.

Frankly, I thought Luther was a HERO for his idea and I was expecting the movie to go in an entirely different direction. I was mildly enjoying it (even though it wasn't funny), thinking that it would be nice to see the resolution where Luther and his wife gave their neighbors proper comeuppance by having a fantastic cruise and thereby showing that Christmas isn't about rote tradition. Boy, did I fail to call where the film was going. Even as all the insane party preparation was taking place at the end, I kept thinking, "this is a joke, right? This is going to turn around in the end, and they will say 'screw you' to all these self-righteous neighbors (not to mention the spoiled brat of a daughter) and leave on their cruise! They HAVE to!!!" No such luck.

For a movie that wanted to reinforce the traditionalism of Christmas, it made me feel the exact opposite. It made me want to skip Christmas out of protest.

Afterward, I kept thinking about the movie's turning point, when spoiled-brat Blaire called to force herself, her fiance that the parents barely know, and HER idea of a traditional Christmas down the Kranks' throats. This is what I would have said:

"Honey, I hate to tell you this, but your father and I decided not to do a traditional Christmas this year. We're going on a cruise on Christmas day. We haven't done any decorating or the traditions you were used to in your childhood. You see, we did many of those things FOR you, because we wanted you to have holiday memories filled with joy, just as we devoted most of the last two decades of our lives to your happiness and well-being.

"We decided that we wanted to do something different and fun, for ourselves, to celebrate this year. Sweetheart, I'm sorry if this disappoints you, but to be frank it was irresponsible of your to call 24 hours before Christmas and expect everything to be the way that you remember it after you left. Your father and I love you, and will always welcome you into our home, but you are an adult now, and you need to expect our independence as much as we respected yours when we let you get into PeaceCorps. This means things won't always be exactly the way you remember them at home. You can't make those assumptions anymore. Your father and I are human beings and we change just like you. Now that it's just the two of us at home again, we've moved on to a new stage in our lives.

"We look forward to seeing Enrique again and we're so happy for you. We'll be glad to let you stay at our place while we're gone. But we aren't going to change our plans at the drop of a hat without warning. Next year we will be happy to show Enrique an amazing traditional American Christmas."

None of this was selfish. It was simply nonconformist. And I guess this movie is a good showcase of just how well Americans can handle nonconformity.

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I compleatly agree and i also think that your "script" is way better than the one we lamentably saw.

the movie is awful.

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I think the film is taken way too seriously by some folks. If you read "Skipping Christmas" you can see where they film lags. The film is making fun of the holiday. The film is so over the top and surreal. Its played much like a sitcom.

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I agree with you ugahushpuppy. My god. It is just a movie, not a documentary. Why do people take that so seriously? It was just meant to entertain not to brainwash the world into a life of Christmas conformity. It is far from the best movie I have ever seen but it delivers on what it is supposed to do and that is entertain. People need to lighten up.

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"I think the film is taken way too seriously by some folks. If you read "Skipping Christmas" you can see where the film lags. The film is making fun of the holiday. The film is so over the top and surreal. Its played much like a sitcom."

Exactly what I thought too. I read the book every year and then try to sit through the movie. Then I watch the Santa Clause trilogy. LOL.

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I hate commercialism, too, but I don't have a problem with this movie. In fact, it's one of my favourite Christmas movies now. And I even read the book before the movie and thought it was a good adaptation.

Although I don't mind "Jingle All The Way" either, I don't think it was as bad as that movie, which is ultimately entirely about a Dad chasing after a toy for Christmas and indulging in all kinds of antisocial behaviour to get there.

Remember that, in this movie, the reason they abandon Christmas is not mainly to go on the cruise, but because their daughter will be away for the first time and it won't be Christmas as usual, anyway. When their daughter decides she will come home, they rush to put Christmas back on. Nora was reluctant to give up Christmas, anyway -- the real catalyst was the daughter being away -- and was the first to jump back in. Luther took to the cruise more easily and took longer to come back around to the idea of Christmas being back on. They give their cruise tickets to a couple for whom it will be their last Christmas together. What is wrong with that? A strong family and neighbourly gesture.

Maybe I just viewed this one differently. I saw the social pressure as amusing because it is true and fairly accurate about what people feel, overemphasized for comedy. Whether it's right or wrong, it's an honest look of what goes on in some peoples' minds over Christmas.

"Jingle All The Way" has theft from and violence against neighbours in the interest of getting a simple Christmas toy. I put it in the same bucket as "Friday After Next" and "Bad Santa" as far as antisocial Christmas movies go. "Christmas With The Kranks" is different.

I am very surprised this one has a low rating. I don't normally like Christmas comedies., but I am not so interested in the comedy as I am in the underlying social story.

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I know its a movie and its a comedy but I did not find this movie funny at all. about the Kranks giving up their tickets: it is a nice gesture and in the spirit of the season but with all the unwarranted pressure from the neighbors ( I would not want any of these people as neighbors) I didnt like it. I just dont see how conforming because the neighborhood rams it down your throat is not funny to me.

itchy, wretched, rust in my aft. -Jetfire

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Ahhh....come on. You have to atleast like the music. I really love the song Christmas (Baby Please Come Home), when Blair is coming down the street pulling up in the police car and the kid is guiding them in.

"Ave Mariaaa.....Hitman."

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well the music might be good but I feel that the neighbors in this movie deserve Danny Devitos character from Deck the Halls as he drives them all crazy but out-doing them and giving them some of their own medicine

itchy, wretched, rust in my aft. -Jetfire

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Well..I enjoyed it very much. It's always good to watch some Christmas movies to get you into the "Spirit of Christmas"!

"Ave Mariaaa.....Hitman."

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ok Im happy you enjoy it. I personally avoid it and watch Christmas Vacation instead.

Shoot me, shoot me now
- Al Bundy

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Thats the only Christmas movie you watch? I'll watch like a dozen before Christmas.

"Ave Mariaaa.....Hitman."

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no not by a long shot. That is just an example of one of the ones I really like to watch. Thats all.

Shoot me, shoot me now
- Al Bundy

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I couldn't agree more. I can't imagine anything more mean-spirited and intolerant than what's depicted here. But clearly some mean-spirited and intolerant people disagree. The people who believe that every radio station, regardless of genre, must play almost nothing but Xmas music. Same with every store, even every elevator. And every TV show must have a Christmas episode and all TV movies must have a Christmas theme. THOU SHALT CONFORM! And if you don't, there's something wrong with you and you must be shunned, pitied or psychoanalyzed.

It's all really much like the Taliban, without the extreme violence. Very depressing.

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benbigwig-1 makes some good points. In real life, the response posed byh benbigwig to Blair would have been normal...but this was a comedy. Blair didn't "force" her folks, they tried to hide their plans and make her think they'd planned the party all along.

As to the message at the end, I think Luther was the HERO and did come out looking good in the end, by giving the cruise to their terminally ill neighbor even though he had a running "arugment" relationship with the husband.

Of course it was a nonsense movie. I think of it as a cartoon with real people playing the parts. Think about the Simpsons. Each Simpson episode is full of neighbors and townfolk as well as the Simpsons doing ridiculous things just like the neighbors in Christmas with the Kranks.

I didn't like CWTK at first, but have found a way to enjoy the completely ridiculous antiques of the neighbors and the really funny ways of Tim Allen and Jamie Lee Curtis. Dan Akroyd does a great job of the over dominant neighborhood "boss." I'm glad I found a way to enjoy it. I don't take the "inappropiate" behavior of the neighbors as a role model or as an standard theme of christmas. It's just comdey.

my god its full of stars

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I liked this movie. It was really cute, and I do believe that some of the film's detractors took it way too seriously.

Were the neighbors/characters in this movie any more bizarre or off the wall than those in Christmas Vacation? No.

It was a fun movie.

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Why must people over-think family comedies so damn much?

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I agree, its funny and over the top. I actually read the novel just a few months ago after seeing the movie a few times. The movie is pretty close to the novel but I do recommend reading the book and sort of "creating" your own characters in your head as you read.

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Loved your idea of what they should have said!
Of course, you would NEVER see that in a movie like this.

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Oh wow, to the OP, you spent what must have been more time typing all that drivel than you spent on wrapping up your Xmas presents back in 2008 when you started this thread.

You've completely missed the entire point of what this movie was saying.....it isn't about commercialising Christmas etc. This movie was about spending every year with a child at the holiday season (in this case their daughter) and for the first time ever when she goes away she won't be there for the first time ever. So the parents decide to complete cut Christmas out of their lives for the simple fact it is going to be too painful.

Of course Nora has it really forced upon her as the movie progresses and Luther becomes obsessed about his Caribbean holiday to add to the comedic element but when Blaire calls and says she is coming home for Christmas, Nora just like a mom immediately discards the vacation and does everything to get the traditional Christmas back on track in the matter of a day.

It is basically about family....you've read to much into this movie.

I only axed ya for a smoke - Jack Frost

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I might be nuts- but I really enjoyed the movie. We went to it, we bought the DVD, and we watch it about 4 times each year. Of course, my kids are now 14/12 but they have always enjoyed it. I, like some of the posters, have family that behave like many of these same characters and I even knew an over zealous neighborhood captain (late 70's). I enjoy it for what it is, a silly Christmas movie. Too many people are comparing this to one of the greatest stories ever told- the birth of our Savior- Jesus Christ

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