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What a disgraceful piece of garbage


So last night I'm wrapping Christmas presents and I turn to FX on the TV.

"Oh, Christmas with the Kranks. I've never seen this," I think. "Maybe I'll give it a look. After all, I heard it was based on a John Grisham novel."

Two hours later I almost ripped up all my wrapping and returned the gifts to the store. I was that angry. I wasn't angry at the horrible quality of the film, or the fact that it wasn't funny. This is, after all, a modern family holiday comedy-- they're a dime a dozen and they're almost universally awful. I knew to expect that much.

My rage was directed at the message this movie sends. In the film, conformity is not only celebrated, but strictly enforced. Societal pressure turns what seems like a perfectly rational idea from Luther, skipping Christmas, into some kind of fiendish, selfish plot to spite others and ruin everyone's holiday.

Until I saw this movie, the worst Christmas movie I knew was "Jingle All the Way," which, though basically about crass Christmas commercialism, at least slightly redeemed itself in the end when the young boy rejected that notion in favor of his family. Now, the worst Christmas movie I've is "Christmas with the Kranks." Congratulations on "topping" yourself again, Hollywood.

But why should anyone be surprised? This movie is part of the big machine that tries to convince you that you are a terrible human being if you don't shell out thousands of dollars every December, not only by buying flat-screen TVs for your teenagers and baking 600 cookies for everyone you know, but by being forcibly extorted by a dozen different charities pushing the idea that somehow, causes are more needy at Christmas time than any other time in the year. Never got the logic in that.

Frankly, I thought Luther was a HERO for his idea and I was expecting the movie to go in an entirely different direction. I was mildly enjoying it (even though it wasn't funny), thinking that it would be nice to see the resolution where Luther and his wife gave their neighbors proper comeuppance by having a fantastic cruise and thereby showing that Christmas isn't about rote tradition. Boy, did I fail to call where the film was going. Even as all the insane party preparation was taking place at the end, I kept thinking, "this is a joke, right? This is going to turn around in the end, and they will say 'screw you' to all these self-righteous neighbors (not to mention the spoiled brat of a daughter) and leave on their cruise! They HAVE to!!!" No such luck.

For a movie that wanted to reinforce the traditionalism of Christmas, it made me feel the exact opposite. It made me want to skip Christmas out of protest.

Afterward, I kept thinking about the movie's turning point, when spoiled-brat Blaire called to force herself, her fiance that the parents barely know, and HER idea of a traditional Christmas down the Kranks' throats. This is what I would have said:

"Honey, I hate to tell you this, but your father and I decided not to do a traditional Christmas this year. We're going on a cruise on Christmas day. We haven't done any decorating or the traditions you were used to in your childhood. You see, we did many of those things FOR you, because we wanted you to have holiday memories filled with joy, just as we devoted most of the last two decades of our lives to your happiness and well-being.

"We decided that we wanted to do something different and fun, for ourselves, to celebrate this year. Sweetheart, I'm sorry if this disappoints you, but to be frank it was irresponsible of your to call 24 hours before Christmas and expect everything to be the way that you remember it after you left. Your father and I love you, and will always welcome you into our home, but you are an adult now, and you need to expect our independence as much as we respected yours when we let you get into PeaceCorps. This means things won't always be exactly the way you remember them at home. You can't make those assumptions anymore. Your father and I are human beings and we change just like you. Now that it's just the two of us at home again, we've moved on to a new stage in our lives.

"We look forward to seeing Enrique again and we're so happy for you. We'll be glad to let you stay at our place while we're gone. But we aren't going to change our plans at the drop of a hat without warning. Next year we will be happy to show Enrique an amazing traditional American Christmas."

None of this was selfish. It was simply nonconformist. And I guess this movie is a good showcase of just how well Americans can handle nonconformity.

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I'm pretty sure that 99% of the population would've told Blaire the truth and gone on the cruise, even we conformist folk who get all excited over every little yearly tradition. But, then there wouldn't have been any reason for Nora to chase a canned ham through the parking lot or for Luther to get botox injections and try to eat canned fruit, etc....

I didn't think Blaire was demanding that her parents throw the party, she just assumed it was going on as usual and was excited to share it with her boyfriend. If her mom wasn't a nut and had just told her the truth, she probably would've accepted it just fine.

Sorry it annoyed you so much, I think it's a silly & cute Christmas movie (and like most comedies, not a realistic depiction of something that would happen in real life). Actually, to me it was a fantasy tale right off the bat when he figured that they spent SIX THOUSAND dollars on Christmas! Gaah!

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jingle all the way was effing awesome


gtfo

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What a strange comment by benbigwig--he/she nailed the thematic elements of this story quite well, but still concluded that it was supposed to be a comedy that supported the traditional American notion of what Christmas is supposed to be.

I haven't read the book, so I could be entirely wrong about this, but would a writer like Grisham write such a story and still expect that kind of conclusion to be drawn about it? I wouldn't think so.

I also found this film to be troubling & disturbing, but I believe that is exactly what it is supposed to be--that was the intent of the filmmakers. Watching some of the neighborhood scenes in this film was like watching "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". Creepy stuff!

If I lived in a neighborhood populated with people like that, I'd have gotten one-way tickets to Peru and never been seen again.

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tl;dr but jeez chill out. It's a fun Christmas movie, not a How-to Guide to Living a Moral Life.

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I have just watched it and was not impressed, there was only one likeable character and that was Tim Allens character!


I would explain more on why i did not like this rubbish, but i am about to watch It's a Wonderful Life :--)

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Yeah, no doubt you didn't read the post. 'Not a how-to guide to living a moral life' has literally nothing to do with anything OP said. Within the context of this thread, the reply you wrote is random non-sense. How come you felt the need to reply to OP even though you didn't read what was said? Why would you tell the OP to 'chill out' based on something which wasn't even said/written?

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I have a Mom who is a LOT like Nora Krank. My birthday is three days before Christmas, but every year, my mom would insist that we go see a movie on my birthday. Like Luther did in the movie, he would grumble, but go along with my mom's wishes because he knew that it made her happy to give me a birthday. Even later years when I told the it was just fine to rent a movie I like and watch it as a family, Mom would say "Nope, you love movies and we're going to see a movie on your birthday." That's just how she was. She wanted to make our birthdays, Christmas or whatever else we were celebrating to be the best she could make it.

I think that is why I enjoyed this movie as much as I did. Nora reminded me so much of my mom. Sure, most rational people would have told Blair to forget it...we're going on a cruise and we'll see you when we get back. Nora, however, loved her daughter so much and was so excited that she'd get to spend Christmas with her daughter, that she was willing to do anything to make that happen - even if it meant contributing to a young kid's college education to get the last ham in the store becuase it was her daughter's favorite.

I can understand how people would dislike this movie and think that it's just about conforming to the wishes of neighbors who demand you put up Frosty or decorate your house or buy Christmas cards or trees or police calendars or sing carols. But that's not what this movie is about. Despite their differences, the neighborhood all got together to help the Kranks out. Despite the insurmountable odds, Nora agreed to throw her daughter and potential son in law the best Christmas she could because she loved her daughter so much.

Okay, it's not a perfect movie, but I really think it's a good story and I have fun watching it every year.

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Happy birthday, pbnj!

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For crying out loud, lighten up. Christmas comedies are not supposed to be the enlightening social commentaries you think they should be. Christmas with the Kranks and Jingle All the Way are two of the better movies about the season that have come out. You can sit and laugh and enjoy without guilt. You were obviously in a bad mood wrapping those presents.

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ihesselberty - Totally agree

Youre supposed to chill out and enjoy these fun Christmas Films at Christmas time !

This film was perfect !


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I've watched a lot of the christmas films turned out

An i love them, watching them at christmas there's nothing better

But this film is the only christmas film that i have watched which has made me feel as down hearted as this

what a piece of uncheery, unfunny and unseasonal piece of nothing

p.s.

and why did santas character remind me of a sleezy sex offender?

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The way the neighborhood tried to impose their traditions and ways seem to me as if it mirrored how religion works. :D

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by PhazzedOut "The way the neighborhood tried to impose their traditions and ways seem to me as if it mirrored how religion works."

Interesting observation. Perhaps taht was Crichton's subtle message in the original book. Now that you mention it, it does kind of remind me of how some people act when another doesn't believe like them. It could go either way, as some nontheists try to get theists to agree with them. But proselytzing is a typical religious (e.g. christian) tendency.

my god its full of stars

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Shouldn't their neighbours been wearing Nazi uniforms .

Too far.

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I agree with all of your points and can't stand how the Kranks for just once want to do something different for one year and are made out to be the worst people even when it is the Krank's neighbors who are the worst. I would not want to live in that neighborhood. What is you didnt celebrate Christmas because you are Jewish or Muslim? Simple. The "neighbors" in this movie would run you out of town. nice message

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I thought it was awful too I received the movie as a Christmas present this year ..when I pulled it out of the gift bag the giver told me oh its a good movie !!! ..but inside i was like hmmmm i remember when it was originally released and had no desire to see it...wasnt that impressed by the promos an/or trailers...
I watched it and thought it wasnt that good either ...I assume Curtis and Allen needed a paycheck or were subjected to some kind of contractual agreement they had to fufill and had to be in the movie...
There are way better Christmas related movies out there...I was actually pissed at the behavior of the neighbors and the community ...how come they relied sooo much on the Kranks to give a party ?? why could'nt one of them throw a Xmas party for once?

ok maybe I got a little emotionally involved ?? they should have asked to John Waters to rewrite the script before it was shot LOL

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I agree about many of the points stated. The problem is, the movie doesn't do the book justice. In the book, Luther was not a comedian and Tim Allen's antics made it a farce. Nora isn't as much as a nut. The neighbors were pushy but not so angry. As typical with most books versus movies, the book goes into much more character development.

If you get a chance to read the book, do it. I can remember being doubled over laughing. It was much more like your typical last minute run to the store to get something, having it be sold out and now you're scrambling for a substitution. There wasn't anything like chasing a ham into the street.

I can't believe John Grishem would have given his stamp of approval on this version as most of the other movies made based on his books were very good!

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