Ridiculous Plotholes (spoilers!)

1. How could a police chief disclose that he'd have the thiefs in 3 hours? So that they could escape in time, or have enough time to prepare a trap? No policeman in the whole world would say an idiotic thing like that on TV.

--this was just to show how cocky he was, and how confident he was being, this makes the following events much more emotional, because they make it PERSONAL, to show how they are so superior.


2. If you know the bad guys are playing X-games on a high-rise roof, wouldn't you surround the damn building and prepare a SWAT team before you go up to identify them? Wouldn't you and the witness (Wong Kit) wear a vest first?

--look at it as a plot device, thats all, NOT a plot hole... the guy needed to get shot so that he could 'confess' to chan, and the bad guys needed to get away (so that we would still have a movie to watch, and that we would have another 'exciting' chase sequence :D ) -yes, if this was the REAL world, they would have surrounded the place, but as im sure we all know, we watch films to get AWAY from the real world...

3. Why are the passengers on the bus not able to get to the driver seat to step on the brake, and have to wait for Jacky to get on the bus to stop it? Are they all retarded?

--same as above. personally out of the WHOLE movie, i hated this bit the most, because they just sat there and didn't do crap, the whole scene looked OVERLY set up just for the action scene - i prefer scenes to be atleast partially realistic (within the realm of a fictional movie, naturally...), but as above, this is just a plot device, its just set up to give a sense of urgency for chan to do his little bus adventure thing...


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1: its a film! and i am pretty sure hk media shows *beep* of things that is not shown in uk usa or other countries (it onced show a clip of a mother abusing her kid) damn that was heartless.

2: again its a film and i was again pretty sure jackie and nicolas didnt want a swat team to surround the building and the policed arrived unannounced and even jackie and nic didnt know that. and the police 'B' team followed them withought any info on where they were going and the police only knew they went to wong kit and he only wanted to id they villains.

3: true that but its a film

Cant someone at least say some good points like jackies emotional cries, non hollywood style plots (which i bet they will copy this), at least show some reality such as watching in horror as his team dies? and exciting stunts and the jacket thing with nic and jackie was a top top idea damn i couldnt figure that out either until the end.

You guys need to lighten up, this is a Jackie Chan escapist action flick that in my mind totally delivers the goods. Yes, one of the bus passengers could have stepped on the brakes but then we would have never gotten to see Jackie run along the the top of a speeding bus, jump onto the side of a building, flip over a sign and then land back down onto the top of the bus without losing a step (!!!) That stunt alone ranks right up there with any stunt from Jackie's earlier films.

Just go with it and stop picking it apart.

1. How could a police chief disclose that he'd have the thiefs in 3 hours? So that they could escape in time, or have enough time to prepare a trap? No policeman in the whole world would say an idiotic thing like that on TV.

Again, reiterating others, this just shows that he's cocky, the creators needed a way to make him seem cocky. Also, at that point (from a vague memory), the thieves don't know that they were discovered, until the scene (and flashback) in the hospital where the guy tells the thieves Jackie's operation and style/formations.


2. If you know the bad guys are playing X-games on a high-rise roof, wouldn't you surround the damn building and prepare a SWAT team before you go up to identify them? Wouldn't you and the witness (Wong Kit) wear a vest first?

Jackie isn't well off with the police department (plus I think Nick would stop him since he's a fake cop). As well, it's personal and this 'impulsive' action connects with his cockiness, that he feels he has to redeem himself for his dead comrades. As for the actual police team, they probably wanted to beat Jackie in the bet, and went ahead before any backup (if they called any). MAYBE they didn't have an extra vest for Wong Kit or maybe they didn't expect something this serious (stupid them).


3. Why are the passengers on the bus not able to get to the driver seat to step on the brake, and have to wait for Jacky to get on the bus to stop it? Are they all retarded?

Not everyone knows how to drive. Also, most buses/large vehicles have a manual transmission. The bus is swinging in random directions and probably shaking like crazy as it hits many obstructions.

I, personally, thought the exact same things as you did, but later i considered all the possibilites rather than make my own assumptions. But hey, these are only my opinions.

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I think that your analysis of the plot having so much holes that you'd better see the documentary.

First question's Answer: The police force is so assure that they can easily catch them and they think that it could be a easy job. As a tough cop he has to give a deadline, nothing else.

Second question's Answer: They are not doing the operation as officially. (Didn't you see that or couldn't you understand that? It's so easy to pretend Asian movies are bad)

Third question's Answer: Why the passengers are going to stop the bus when they couldn't no how to operate or how they could control themselves as they are not habituated for the shaking situation.

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You should stop watching movies if you can't understand those silly things.

umm...not 1 and 3...but for number 2

>>2. If you know the bad guys are playing X-games on a high-rise roof, wouldn't you surround the damn building and prepare a SWAT team before you go up to identify them? Wouldn't you and the witness (Wong Kit) wear a vest first?

boy you guys are dumbasses...did you all sleep through the movie or do you all have short term memory losses?? he couldn't call in a swat team because HE DIDN'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO SO! jesus christ, nicholas tse tricked him to get him back to solve the case, nicholas tse wasn't a cop and the department had no idea that Jackie chan was actually back except those cops that he made the bet with and they probably just assumed that he was called back. and it wouldn't make sense if the swat team got a call from a cop who had his entire team killed and has been on sick leave for a month and just went all out...

How was Sam's triad connected enough with the rich kids to have informed them of the plot?

its just a movie thats fiction. not everything has to be like in real life. also these arent really plot holes. u are just questioning the actions of the characters in the movie.

for ur first question, just want to dramatically stress that jackie's character was confident since he has solved every case b4. he also wanted to assure the public that the criminals would be caught.

for ur second question, the guys that werent with jackie's character were just idiots. they were too confident. they should have put a bulletproof vest on the witness.

for ur third question, they are scared. they probably have never dealt with such a dangerous stiruation. also they mighty not know how to operate a bus. maybe they dont want to go near the driver's body. they probably have never even seen a dead body. they are not brave like jackie chan and his character.