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ALFIE (1966 vs. 2004)


Which is the prefered? I watched both of them back to back, not having previously seen them. My favorite of the two is the remake

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The original Alfie was based on the novel and play of the same name by Bill Naughton, who also wrote the screenplay. It was truly far from being amongst the greatest films of the '60s. However, remaking the film was utterly pointless. I don't understand how someone can wake up someday and say, "I want to remake that film." It's quite obvious that directors and screenwriters don't read books anymore. Where is the creative drive in Hollywood? Everyone is more interested in making a profit, oppose to being innovative and original. Stop glossing up old films and start coming up with your own. The Jude Law version is as pointless as it is stylish. It's such a restrained version with such extremely glossy production and think that's why most movie goers today will prefer the remake because the standards for good film making has taking a huge nose-dive. Therefore, the original Alfie is far from stellar but I still hugely prefer it and have to ask the simple question about the remake "Why bother in the first place?'

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Caine is a legend, Jude is a decent actor but common, the reamek blew, horribly, the 1960s version had so much more depth.




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I'm watching the 1966 version right now on TV for the first time, and I can't get into it or relate to it at all. I'm sure in the time it was filmed it was pretty groundbreaking or something, but not for me, not today. At times it almost felt like I was watching a play, the way some of the dialogue was delivered. It just didn't impact me like I thought it would after all the talk.

So I'm not sure why all the flack over the 2004 version. The theme may not have had the same edge, but then, we live in a different time. So...as for me, I prefer the lighter version of the movie...oh, and had it not been remade, I probably would not have paid any attention to the original at all. So if nothing else, remakes can serve to bring attention to earlier versions that would probably never have gotten renewed attention with newer audiences.



He's an illusionist...which is just a fancy word for magician.

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in an interview with GQ UK, Jude Law said the remake would've brilliant if the Alfie character had been rewritten as a woman, kinduva gender role reversal for the 21st century

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Yes, that would have been a brilliant turn to it...of course, with Jude having a role in it, because I loved looking at him in it...I know, I'm shameless.


He's an illusionist...which is just a fancy word for magician.

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The original was driven by the consequences of having sex in a society where contraception was not readily available - pregnancy. Alfie's inability to commit leads to a breakdown and estrangement from his child in one instance and in another having to procure an abortion at a time when it was both dangerous and illegal. The horror and risks of a backstreet abortion only obtainable via a drunken struck-off Doctor make very powerful scenes.

The issues of pregnancy and abortion seem more of a lifestyle choice in 2004 and are being covered in many daytime soaps so it's hard to care so much for the charachters as in the original.

With nothing new to say you shave to question why the film was remade.

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The original was far, far superior to the 2004 version. Michael Caine was the perfect Alfie in every way.

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I'm interested that other people prefer the remake, as I thought it was just me! While Jude Law's Alfie is obviously quite a cad, the dated sexist attitudes displayed by Michael Caine's Alfie in the original were just too much for me. I ended up hating the character completely, where as in the remake the device of Alfie talking to the camera works as its supposed to - making you like the lead character despite yourself. That did happen at all with the original because I disliked Alfie too much.

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I agree completely, Elizabeth. I saw the original last year for the first time, only because I had already seen the remake, and I could not relate to the original at all.




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Caine: Jude's Alfie was wrong time

Sir Michael Caine has said Jude Law's remake of Alfie was made at the "wrong time".

The 75-year-old Oscar-winning actor starred in the original version of Alfie in 1966, while Jude starred in a remake of the cult classic, set in America, in 2004.

Michael - who won his first Best Actor Oscar nomination for the film - told the Daily Mirror: "I played Alfie as a dinosaur who didn't know what was going on."

He added: "The last line was, 'What's it all about?' He was mystified by it all. But when you saw Jude Law in Alfie you knew he knew exactly what everything was all about, so there was nowhere to go to find out. That was the problem with that picture.

"It should have been called Charlie or something, not Alfie. The Alfie I made was the right movie for that time. When Jude made Alfie it was the wrong time."


from: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hxnkje4W6JCKfi- __-CGAQtrtjEg




Do you agree?
I think I don't

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Let's see now, it appears most women preferred the remake, while most men preferred the original. Hmm...didn't see that coming...

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The original 1966 film is the ONLY version worth watching. 2004 remake is a joke!

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The 2004 remake was wayyyyyyyyy better. Jude is so sexy!!

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1966 version wins.

I saw the remake first and quite liked it, but hen I saw the original, and it was *intense*! They don't make movies like that anymore. And they shouldn't, because they don't reflect our time and age.

What I mean to say is that this is not a "timeless movie". It's set in the 60s for a reason.

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I hate it when people love the original just because it's original, and hate the remake just because it's much newer.

I love older movies (older than 1966), and really thought i was gonna see something very good, since i've already watched new Alfie. I was a little disappointed, remake was far more entertaining and interesting than the original. Michael Cain was good, but i think Jude Law is a more likeable guy, which a character like Alfie should be.

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Watched the original last night, and thought it was good. I watched the remake earlier this year, and thought it was OK but not as good as the original.

However if both versions were on the idiot box at the same time I would watch the '04 version as it is much more light hearted. I think I would have to be in a certain frame of mind to watch the original again, as it is very bleak with Cain's 'Alfie' being much more unlikeable and at times detestable(sp).

This is a rare occasion where I would re-watch the safe middle of the road movie over one that is much darker.

On a side note I wouldn't buy either on DVD.

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It's funny cause I actually did buy both on DVD but it was only because they were on sale. I watched them (for the first time) back to back, and I have to say the remake is the better of the two. In the original, Alfie and the world he lived in just came off as bland. The people in Alfie's life had little to no character, which wouldn't be so bad if Alfie himself wasn't so detestable. There was nothing about Alfie (as a character) that was likable, and at times I thought Alfie was going to become a cautionary tale about a sociopath. All in all it just seemed like Alfie was a playboy simply because the script said he was, not because his character had some charm or some positive traits.

In the remake one could see what girls saw in him. and Alfie's character wasn't so unlikable. He seemed more human, in the remake and you wanted to follow him on his adventures. I liked that they didn't make him a absolutely sympathetic person, but you could feel some sympathy in the way his story closes.

the original was good, it's just the remake was better presented.

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What I didn't like about the 1966 version was the young women. They acted and talked like little girls. The women in the 2004 version were assertive women.

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To the notion that guys (even British guys, like myself) prefer the original over the remake, I'll just say that I much prefer the remake...and I'm a Michael Caine fan.

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i saw the 2004 version first and i really liked it, then i saw the 66 version and i didnt disliked it but i think both are two different movies, i wasnt expecting that.

so i think its ok to have both movies, they treat the same subject but really different, if i have to choose one i would go with the 2004.

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Jude Law is very sexy and intelligent.Like Michael Caine..he did such a good job I wonder if more was needed.

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I think like in a lot of cases, it rather depends on which version one sees first because there are bound to be comparisons. Michael Caine nailed Alfie and when I saw this remake it left me cringing. For me the humour was completely lacking and predictable and Law brought nothing spectacular to the role at all in my opinion. I watched it again on Netflix last night after a hiatus and was still hugely unimpressed.

If you are going to remake a classic (rarely a wise move unless at least maybe a century has passed), you have to at least match the original but this didn't even begin to match Caine's Alfie's true descent into loneliness and self-pity.

I have seen the original perhaps half a dozen times so arguably I was always going to be wary of a remake but I kept an open mind. There was no one element in particular that stood out as lacking, it generally all felt like a cheap market stall replica of an expensive perfume - watered down and lacking in the substance of the original. There was honestly not one singular scene that even raised the smallest of laughs. Basically I don't think it should have been remade...."know what I mean?" 

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Original: 6/10
Remake: 5/10

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The original did not have the restrictions of the remake. We are going backwards as a people. Our ability to freely express ourselves is being choked out by pc feminist drivel.

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I only saw the last 20 minutes of the remake but it struck me that it spelled out what the 66 version left implicit. Michael Caine played a female stereotype, the tart without a heart; Jude Law advertised it.

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odshooter22:

There's nothing "drivel" about feminism. I've seen both versions of ALFIE, and both are simply products of their time. Also,there's a difference between freely expressing oneself,and being a disrespectful a**hole. Some people don't even know that there's a difference between the two. I liked both pictures, but,yeah, in the original Alfie was a sexist d***, especially to the young lady he picked up at the bar. I mean, he basically treated her like his servant when they lived together, talked down to her like a dog, and then had the nerve to act all surprised when she finally packed up and left his a**. I like the remake because I wanted to see Law (whom I like, and he's also a really good actor who does interesting films(and yeah, it dosen't hurt that he's also a hottie,too) in a leading role where he could just coast on his charm, good looks, and charisma for a change,lol.

I liked the fact that in the remake Alfie had a little more respect for the women he hooked up with, was much less of a d***, and didn't treat them like s*** just because he was sleeping with them. (I'm thinking that's also because the script for the remake was co-written by a woman, who was also one of the main producers of the film, which is probably why all the female characters came off as strong, separate, and unique characters in their own right.) Plus the remake was really lighthearted to some extent,and I liked the European feel to it (it was shot partly in England,so that makes sense.) I also liked the diversity of the case,too--that was really refreshing, and it was funny,too. So,yeah, I liked it---and it was also nice to see a sexy interracial love scene for once (I wish it could have happened in another context,though) because what Alfie did---going after his best friend's girlfriend--that was a low blow,for real. He deserved to get the cut from his friend after that. Other than that, the remake was pretty good. I get the feeling it wasn't a box office hit,though, which is too bad, since it's really good--I liked the soundtrack,too.


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There's nothing "drivel" about feminism. I've seen both versions of ALFIE, and both are simply products of their time. Also,there's a difference between freely expressing oneself,and being a disrespectful a**hole. Some people don't even know that there's a difference between the two. I liked both pictures, but,yeah, in the original Alfie was a sexist d***, especially to the young lady he picked up at the bar.


Yes, the current form of feminism is garbage. It' not about equality, it's about control. And the first Alfie move was superior because he was a dick that used women. It was raw, real. Now because of this *beep* PC culture we are getting watered down characters. The newer movie might as well have been made for 14 year olds.

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