I never understood what was Deborah's problem in the bedroom with her husband...the scene where they are in bed and Deborah is sitting on her husband and does she have an orgasm or what? Does she have a medical problem?
shareIt looks like she orgasmed (although that was an awkward moment) I would guess from rubbing up against his thigh, but they weren't having sex because you could see they were clearly clothed. So I guess that's why Adam Sandler's character said, "You don't even need me, do you?" or something like that.
shareThey were having sex. He said that because she was riding him, yet miles away emotionally with complete disregard for his sexual fulfillment. This is a defining scene for her character, clearly showing her shattered self-esteem and deeply rooted selfishness for the first time.
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she climaxes and then went into a major depressive mood. It's a psychological issue that some people have. I think she is supposed to have been upset because she can't stand to be happy. Once again this movie is confusing.
shareIt's not confusing, it's emotionally deep, as deep as human emotions. This is why the movie works so well in my opinion, and why not everything is crystal clear: because people's emotions are not so simple to explain or rationalize, otherwise we would all be happy.
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I agree the movie did exactly what we both described in a beautiful way. However, I think that it could have very easily been explained without taking away from the movie (like by having him say "why do you always get so sad after" and have her not be able to answer because she doesn't know. Or something more complicated that would work better. That would fit in with the movie.) That was something stupid I came up with in 10 seconds and it explains everything. So, actually it the scene IS confusing. If one person walks out of the theater needing to have something explained to them the movie has failed in a way. Just because you understood it doesn't mean things were handled as well as they could have been.
shareI just watched the movie and I am pretty sure that she gets depressed because she realises that her husband is a lot more successful in his job than her. She's been out of work for months and doesn't look like she'll be getting back anywhere anytime soon. Whilst her husband is described as the best chef in America by a renowned critic.
shareI agree that is probably one of the many things which are depressing her. However, the human psyche is rarely that simple.
shareShe was so depressed and MEAN because she thought only of HERSELF. A narcissist. She thought the world revolved around her. She only focused on her misery. THAT'S why she was so unhappy.
shareActually depression is not as common in narcissist personalities as you would think. Most successful women are accused of being narcissists because they work hard and take care of themselves, try to make themselves look good. Once again, the human psyche is not something that you can explain away with one sentence. I agree that she has some narcissistic tendencies but I also believe that her self esteem was shot due to her having lost her job (the only thing she had focused on for the last several years) and was now stuck taking care of two children who resented her and didn't really need her (especially after she hired the nanny) or come to her with their problems. I also think that she focused on herself because she had an alcoholic mother, who ignored, and psychologically abused her while showing bad example of how humans act. That does all kinds of horrible stuff to a child, and when that child grows up they tend to have issues if they don't get help, which she obviously didn't. She focused on herself because she believed that she was the only person in her life who she could help, and that if she worked hard, succeeded enough, was fit, and strong enough, if she had a perfect life (and everyone around her knew it) that the pain would finally go away. And when the pain didn't go away, it made her depressed. The reason that she started crying after sex is because sex (especially orgasm) causes your brain to be flooded with all sorts of hormones and endorphins and if you are healthy, you feel good. If you are emotionally stunted, in psychological agony, and feel like a total failure in life (why do you think she had to beat everyone at running/ walking? It was the only thin she ever got right) you would probably feel overwhelmed by this and would start to cry too. Any first year psych student (or someone who took psych 101) can say "oh she's a narcissist" which is somewhat true, but to think that it explains everything is to oversimplify the situation and bungle the diagnosis.
share"If one person walks out of the theater needing to have something explained to them the movie has failed in a way."
I could not disagree with this statement more. I like films where the director doesn't dumb things down in order for the entirety of the audience to have full comprehension. I think it's even better if, the first time through, not everything is clear. It makes for more enjoyable repeat viewings.
I wonder if you've ever seen the work of David Lynch and how you responded to that. Or to a film like Primer which seems to have all of the plot pieces you need to understand it on display, yet it is still thoroughly perplexing (not to mention, the brainy science jargon that the main characters communicate in.)
x1,000,000,000 life is like water. I don't even go see simplistic, dumbed down movies. Okay, strike that. I love stupid horror movies (guilty pleasure) I'd say I got to four or five a year.
To OP/ any confused posters, "Spanglish" was a grownup movie. If you didn't understand everything you saw, you're probably not ready for it. I could lone you my 8-year-old nephew's copy of "Barney's Singalong." He hasn't watched it in 5 years. So you can even keep it if you want.
Exactly right. I went with a new beau to see The Graduate at a small theater. That's a favorite movie (and book) of mine. Mind you, this was easily 25-30 years ago. At some point, my date let out a loud guffaw, and practically yelled, "He's doin' the mother AND the daughter!!!". Well, that was embarrassing, and over the course of the next two weeks, I learned of his love for TV wrestling, Monster Truck Rallys, and REO Speedwagon...well, you can't blame a thing on the movie.
Oh. Two weeks was all I could take of that nonsense.
Wait a second... whilst I'm not much into TV wrestling or monster Truck Rallys (and I kinda know who REO Speedwagon is, but I don't know I know their music) your comment here...
Oh. Two weeks was all I could take of that nonsense.
LOL, hilarious story!
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