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The End... Women and Men VOTE HERE (Spoiler Alert!)


For those that have seen the ending, lets vote... Did they die in cement or live to be old people in that nursing home? No votes for him dying in the parking lot, that's dumb.

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The form is like this:

My vote: They died.
I am: Female

OR...

My vote: They lived.
I am: Male
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Ok?

Here is my vote...

My vote: They died.
I am: Male

VOTE!

"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus

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They died.
I am male.

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Both. They lived through their love ;) Their love was immortal.
I am female.

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The moviemakers were just jerking us around, playing with our emotions. I don't like to be toyed with.
I am male.

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My vote: They died
I am: Female

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My vote: They lived.
I am: Female

Of corse they lived you clowns, why else would the cement have the cement on it for, and what would be the meaning of them in the nursing home, when Julien pisses on the floor just like the beginning. And the lady says why didn't you leave anything for your children. Lighten up people.

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my vote: they died
I am: female

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my vote: they died
i am: female

Ummm... no. i think the last scene of them in the nursing home was a hypothetical thing, how they would have been if there love had been endless without killing themselves. my reasoning is this: their time became circular (peeing on the floor when they were old, just like when they were young). circular=endless. endless love, what they were hoping for when they died. they died. give me one reason why they would have put the cement scene in there if they ended up living anyway. because it was beautiful? i don't think so.

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they died
female


the woman said something about why leave his children... or something like that... she means why did he kill himself and leave his children... duh!

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My vote: They lived (because they weren't in the concrete in the first place)
I am: Female

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My Vote: They lived.
I am: Male

Guys, it is a metaphor, the cement represents the burden of their decisions of being together for the rest of their lives, I mean the effects on their families, career and reputation...

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when you sad they weren't in the concrete in the first place

they where in the concrete what are you saying?

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My Vote: They Died

I Am: Male

I think the nusring home scenes etc. were a hallucination by one of them just prior to death. I think it was the person looking back on their lives together and reaching a state of total happiness

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The vote is closer than I anticipated. Keep voting.

"...nothing is left of me, each time I see her..." - Catullus

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My vote: They died.
I am: Male

but I think the idea of the metaphor is very interesting, and I'm not sure at all about my vote.

J'aimerais mieux mourir que d'attenter à mes jours (Musset)

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They died.
I am female.

I think they died, and the commentaries on the dvd confirms it. In Cotillard's interview, she says so herself, that their love prevents them from living a "normal" life.


EDIT: In regards to what dharhan99 said: I agree that all personal interpretations are good where art is concerned, however there is no denying the artist's intent here.

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Wait a minute; "prevents them from living a "normal" life" does not equate to prevent them from living at all.

Fanboy : a person who does not think while watching.

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I think that the beauty of a truly great piece of art is that it can be legitimately interpreted in many different ways, which serves to involve the audience in an important way. One can project one's own experiences and desires, albeit in many cases subconsciously, onto the piece and come away with dramatically different meanings, purposes, or realities. I believe that this film possesses this quality.

As luisacart mentioned, the nursing home scene can be seen as a physical representation of the feeling of deep, eternal love between the characters. At the same time, however, the cement itself can be seen as a metaphor for the imprisonment of the characters by their fairly controversial decision to return to one another, as psi_rover said.

I see no reason that either perspective is more or better warranted based solely on the events within the movie, so I think that both ideas are "right," depending on the viewer's subjective interaction with the film.

Additionally, the filmmakers' (or authors', poets', painters', whatever) intentions are not necessarily the only valid perspectives of a movie (or any piece of art), as saroune_bedard seems to think. Although it may be important to know and understand what the filmmakers intend, it is possible (and, in my opinion, a sign of great art) that the piece take on a life of its own, allowing the audience to interact with it in a manner similar to what I described above.

With that said:
My Vote: They Lived.
I Am: Male

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They lived, or maybe I wish they have lived, although the scenes after the cement have a different light, look and feel from the rest of the film, they have a dreamlike illumination. So, im not sure, but i dont think that one could die peacefully drowning in cement. Maybe life was dreamlike after they accepted their love for each other.

I am: Male

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I vote: They died
I am: Female

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They died.
I am Male.

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They died. :(
I am female.


'Tu veux nager la brasse dans les plantes?'

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they lived and died and lived.
i am male.

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I was about looking forward to them killing each other simultaneously, like a "War of the Roses" ending... they were getting increasingly vicious... which works better for me than a lunatic suicide (well!). I felt the old age scenes a cop out to mollify audiences wanting a happy ending (ok, as I did)... however, some points brought up here are very interesting to consider, hmmmm... I would prefer they lived although it's difficult to escape cement once engulfed... and I think the filmmakers intended, primarily, that:

They died... ( ? ;)
Male

Julien did say not to take that dare!

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they died !!

i am female!

i think it is soo much more romantic if they died - and then the nursing home scene could be a heaven like scene - saying they will be together, forever daring each other, forever!

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i agree, the old age scenes were completely unnecessary, as was the scene in the library where sophie practices her speech on some unwitting guy.

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They lived.
I am male.

The filmmakers may have intended us to think they died, but I choose to believe they lived.

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