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Its end (Don't read if u havent seen it)


Hey,everybody!
Howz life? good?
Anyway, i saw this movie yesterday with my friends. But, No one understood its end.
So, Can anyone explain to me its end?

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the ending as i understood it was that after he had his revenge on the people that didnt help him when he was in the institute and mentally ill. he killed all the staff and closed down that institute and then set up his own institute that would help people get better, hence him walking up the steps with his case (he was a university graduate) and looking at the plaque on the door before entering the building.

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The way that I interpret the end is that Ben (after killing everyone that was connected to his past), changed the institution's name and directed it as he had always wanted to do, beginning a new life and helping others suffering from the same disorders that he had. That's why I love this movie. It's ending was perfect. This is somewhat different from the custom movies where the psycho character is always killed.

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At the end, just before he walks in he stops and looks out in the courtyard just like at the beginning of the film, implying that he's seeing the little kid again, and thus the cycle is starting all over again. Clark/Ben can't purge the memories by killing; he's doomed to repeat the cycle over and over again until he gets real help.

I think the ending sucked. After setting us up for a really good, original horror flick, it's like the writer ran out of ideas and just tacked on a stock hollywood ending. The crazies were under-utilized, they never explained how the patients could see and hear Ben, and why did the Doc run down Ben in the first place instead of just capturing him and locking him back in his cell?

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I had this strange notion that the head of the institution had run over Clark/Ben years earlier and maybe had him institutionalized after in order to escape serving time but it's just an idea.

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This was an entertaining movie, I think if you try and over analyze it, there are things that may not make sense...but after all, it was just a movie that had several good twists. I think it is hard to make a horror movie that has an excellent storyline, but I certainly found this one to be pretty good!

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I just finished watching Madhouse on "ON DEMAND". Most of the stuff they show there is pure *beep* so it was refreshing to see such a badass movie. I've always believed that lower budget movies generally make better horror films--one, because they look more real and less stylized (Dario Argento, anyone?), and second, because their directors are more inclined to take risks and are not confined to the big-budget *beep* stock endings.

My take on it is similar to those in the other postings: We have a man with multiple personality disorder coming back home--the "there's no place like home" line from the boy is apropos here--many years after he was drop kicked out for being too crazy for a mental institution. He kills Clark and adopts his identity to make it seem legit to Franks and the other docs; he befriends the buxom Sara to get information; and he kills everyone in order to complete unfinished business and purge himself of the trauma of his childhood. The ending is rather ambiguous, but I think the idea is that he's adopted yet another personality--Ben no longer needs Clark after Franks is dead--and he's possibly masquerading as a doctor at a new institute.

Some virtues of the movie:
1) The ending is genuinely surprising, unlike Depp's Secret Window and most of the other MP flicks.
2) It's set from the point of view of the afflicted himself, rather than some third party cliche. This is effective because a) it sets up the film as both a first-person narrative and a third-person one, because Clark/Ben can only see himself from the outside and b)it's a good clinical exercise in what life must be like for those afflicted with MP.
3) It hangs together well. It makes sense he'd see the kid. It makes sense the kid says 'there's no place like home'. It makes sense he'd have a connection with the guy in room 44, as that guy is himself. It makes sense that Clark/Ben is the killer given that all the deaths occur almost immediately after he arrives. It makes sense Ben would have a connection with Sara given that she, too, is schizophrenic. If Ben were not, he may have been scared off by her.
4) It's well-balanced. It's both a psychological exploration of a decayed mind and a political statement. As easy as it is to blame Ben/Clark for the murders, it is also true that the madhouse is a complete madhouse. This is what makes the title brilliant--it is a madhouse in that it is a place housed by insane people, and it's a madhouse because it's run so badly. Ben/Clark is right to criticize the handling of the institute and while it's unclear if the patients are in fact being administered placebos, there's no question that this is about the worst run mental institute this side of 1920.
5) Sara has a great body.

Some problems with the movie:
1)Why is Franks reading about hauntings? Or, is this just Clark's hallucination? Totally unclear.
2) Why does Alice (is that her name) also see the little kid? Or, perhaps this plays on the idea that some schizophrenics have a sixth sense about things--great intuition or whatever.
3) Why does nobody suspect Clark when the killings all begin right after he arrives? Also, they all see him snooping around, and yet they are completely unsuspicious.
4) Why does the letter about Clark's death occur so late? I'd think a phone call, or in this age, an email would be a better means of communication.
5) Why does Sara put something in Clark's drink? Is it really just a stress-reliever? And why does Clark respond so dramatically to it? This seems to be the moment when he flies off the handle and turns into Ben for good.
6) What was Clark/Ben doing for the last 27 years? He's obviously totally insane, and it's hard to imagine him living a normal life during that intervening period. It's more likely he would have been committed somewhere else, but this is not explained at all.
7) The ending was very weak. Should have just ended with his killing Sara.


All that aside, great movie. Very thought-provoking.

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Very good study man, well done, The way I see it, Clark/Ben genuinely thought he was the real Clark, until Sara points it out to him right at the end, after which his other personality takes over. This answers the problem no.5 of the previous post... Sara realised that Clark/Ben was the murderer, so she tries to bump him off. Then she stupidly confronts him about it, letting out his other personality, Ben. Agree on problem
1... Makes no sense??? Unless Franks sees the boy as well... Which doesn't make sense.
2. I agree.
3. Completely agree... He would seem suspicious to me.
4. I think that it's because big companies nowadays make a standard letter, then just change names and stuff as needed. Because it would be too much effort to phone everyone, the institution/universities might not use/have email, and they generally do use letters nowadays for formal stuff. Like job references etc. But then why didn't Franks suspect that Ben/Clark is the killer? Surely he read the letter before it went into his file?
6. Agree, but horrors don't always have to explain absolutely everything...
7. Agreed, it was kinda vague, but I agree with the theory that he may have been transferred, but then again, this can't be, as the institution was keeping the same people and not treating them so they could get government funding.

3 last things:-)
1. Sara does have a great body
2. I'm glad that head nurse died. She was a cow.
3. I really enjoyed the movie! Best part is, it was very unpredictable, and it made you think.

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I don't think Alice ever saw the little kid. I don't remember her saying anything about kids, just a 'ghost'. I think she was just crazy.

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the ending is simple...this was his sickness..he is just still ill..he pretends to be a doctor..of course if he see something bad in the other institute he will kill again..

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The two orderlies who walked out the door at the end were the same two orderlies who were chasing the boy thru the woods at the beginning. The look he gave them shows he recognized them and knew he was in the right place to continue his madness.

Madness takes it's toll - Please have exact change.

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There is a part where Clark asks the man in cell 44 "" can you leave from there"""and the man says "" only with my imagination"" that makes me think that Clark actually wasnt the kid that died in 1989 but he just got crazy by the things that were happening there and just begun killing people. If you remember he and sarah searched some files and found that noone got out of the institute but only when they die. So he couldnt be the kid

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He has Multiple Personality Disorder, therefor he was sent to SEVERAL mental institutes, and is going back to all of them to seek his revenge and kill everyone who got in his way. As he even stated in the movie....

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