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our Cheetahs thank you


We supplied the cheetahs for Duma and my son was one of the team that handled all the cheetahs and bushbabies. I worked the lions. After all the hard work everyone put into the 5 months of prep and 4 months of travel and shooting, we were all so bitterly disappointed by the treatment that the film received from Warners (prompted by the failure of their 'Two Brothers' tiger film). It really is good to read the comments here and to know that people are getting to see the film in some Art house theatres and on DVD - and that families are enjoying Carroll's film. We really had high hopes for the project, maybe it will get 'cult status' and go on and on entertaining people. thanks to all for the support of this great little film.

Jim Stockley
South Africa

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Mucho kudos for coming to the IMDB forum !
Yeah, a nice film, maybe a bit predictable, but thats family film :)

Gawd, those bush babies are so cute...

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Yes, the bush babies were great fun.

I continue to be amazed at how active this forum is, when you consider that 'Dum' did nothing at the box-office ;-) I hope Carroll and Doug and the gang come past here from time to time! I keep coming back, it's good fun to know how wrong the studio were, they would have done well with this film if they had supported it.

I read an article in the UK Guardian newspaper online that was bemoaning the standard of special-effects heavy blockbusters that are emptying the multiplexes of Europe and decrying the lack of good solid family fare but when you look at the treatment given by Warners to lovely films like 'Duma' it's really no wonder that producers are reluctant to make these films anymore. And it's not just Warners. Another little film we did 'Elephant Tales' was going to have a well supported 300 screen release in France until the bean-counters at Universal read some numbers and had a panic-attack and tried to shelve the whole thing, just like the 'Duma' project, it limped out at 40 screens and did little. I hear it will now go straight to DVD - maybe that's where family movies belong nowadays ? I just hear Duma looked great on a big screen, and would have like to see it that way, surrounded by a bunch of appreciative family people.

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Well, it looks like this thread has run its course.
I started this thread so I'd like to end it with Merry
Christmas wishes to all who visit here - (and 'Happy Holidays'
to all who don't celebrate Christmas) - a great New Year to us all ;-)

very best

Jim Stockley
South Africa

I still wonder if anyone saw the 'Snapple Tea' ad in North America?
Did any of you spot the cheetahs (pun intended!) in 'Blood Diamond' ?

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My parents rented the movie one night, fell in love with it and bought it for my little nieces. We all watched it together tonight. Loved the movie! Beautiful scenery (South Africa has a very special place in our hearts, we lived there years ago, love the country and its people!) The animal scenes were amazing and loved the work of Eamonn Walker and Alex Michaeletos. The cheetahs were gorgeous! Wish there were more movies like this. Will keep an eye out for the Snapple Tea ad.

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I'm watching this movie on TV (WB) right now. And, it isn't the first time I'm watching this brilliant film. I love it!

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Well I'm a little late, but I'm watching it now. It is airing on HBO till November 2015, and also HBO OnDemand. Just found it while flipping channels. It's IMDb rating is currently 7.3 which is pretty good I think.

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Just a post to say *Thank YOU*. What a wonderful film! It gave me a much greater appreciation for the cheetah. The shot where the animals were running were just awe inspiring. Thank you again!

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Here's another positive "vote" for this movie! It killed me that I missed it when it had a very brief run in ONE movie theater in Manhattan. In fact I went into the city on a day off only to find that it had finished it's run a few days before. (even though the "official" movie site showed it as still being run there) It then played for ONE DAY in a theater on Long Island, where I live and I couldn't get there that day either. grrrrr....

I had to wait for it to FINALLY come out on DVD.

I stumbled upon this movie while channel surfing one night. Ebert and Roper were reviewing it on "At The Movies" and gave it a definite two thumbs up. Being the animal lover I am, I just HAD TO see it. I loved every minute of it and I too was extremely disappointed that it was never promoted nor got a decent distribution. All the bean counters see is $$$ and if they don't see a whole lot of them, well... sheesh...

I too dream of working with animals. I long to leave my job and go to a "job" where I can't wait to get there and never want to leave. Working with animals would probably be the only place that would happen, but unfortunately very unlikely, sigh... Anyone else wish they were Patty at the Little Zoo That Could on Animal Planet?? LOL!

Anyway, I hope the dvd sales have been good, although with NO promotion, that would be hard unless a buzz of some sort happened. I hope one does!

Best to you and your beloved animals. My two mini tigers (ok, ok, cats, LOL@) send their regards too.

:-)

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Saw the movie on one of my intercontinental flights out of Europe this spring. Think it was on BA, but not sure - too many flights. So I don't recall the flight, but I do remember that film very well. It is one of only five films I really enjoyed this year. It brought back so many nice memories of Southern Africa. Actually, it also should have been promoted by your national tourist board.

Once I was back in Germany from my trip overseas, I went to a shop and bought the DVD straight away. Showed it in the meantime to quite some friends who also visited South Africa and/or Namibis or still want to go there. Not one who didn't like the movie. Although it obviously was no real success on the big screen (I never saw any adverts for it), I do my little share to promote it. I know of at least 10 people who bought the DVD after seeing it in my home - and it even helped to convince three parties to visit South Africa and Namibia resp.

As I am regularly in South Africa (once per year on average), I do have the question, whether you allow visits to see the cheetahs.

And you have an impressive and longlasting filmography. Although it was a completely different movie, I still remember "The Gods Must be Crazy I and II..."
In this context one last curious question: which of the 20-odd movies you worked for, do you like most? (You bet, I am going to watch it thereafter)

With my best wishes for a Happy New Year...

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Just saw the movie on tv here in Portugal. Really liked it. Congratulations to everyone who worked on it. It reminded me of another great movie that i really like, Fly Away Home, with Anna Paquin. So I went to see its Imdb entry and guess what: it's by the same director!!! I guess I gotta see his other movies.



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Hello,

Thank you for the kind wishes for 2007, the same to you and yours ;-)

Our cheetahs are not currently on view to visitors but we do hope that will change in 2007 as we are building new cheetah facilities on my son's farm, close to us here in Pietermaritzburg. At the new place we can introduce the two boys to the two young ladies that have been growing here this past two years. If you are in the area though, give me a call and we'll try to work something out.

That's a good idea about the national tourism board !

Regarding all the movies we have made over the past 25 years..... I think Duma was the first one that we REALLY had high hopes for. A lot of animal films, and especially 'AFRICA' films have such bad scripts and lame storylines that bear little resemblence to the realities or complexities of conservation issues in Africa as a whole and southern Africa in particular... there are not that many of ours that I would recommend ;-)

Carroll Ballard really took the time to look around and find those places that most filmmakers don't bother to go looking for, quite a special man.

We thought 'Running Free' might make it but most of the lion work ended up on the cutting room floor - there was a shot we did in it with a lion cub playing with the nose of the hero horse,under a tree in the desert that was quite beautiful, but that was never seen. Half the work our colleagues did with oryx and horses didn't make it into what turned out to be a fairly mediocre film.

'Gods II' was special because the Director, the late Jamie Uys, was one of a kind and understood Africa and African people. He was also working with his own money so he just did what pleased him and accounted to nobody but himself.

We just did a French/Australian co-production called 'Elephant Tales' that we are really pleased with, but it seems destined to follow 'Duma' into obscurity ! It had a release in France that wasn't well publicised and will now probably go to DVD and TV.

Craig & Zelie Bullen, the friends that worked with us on 'Elephant Tales', were also on 'Charlottes Web' training pigs, I hear that worked out well ?

We do a lot of TV commercials that we are quite proud of, at least they ALL make it onto the TV ;-) One we did for 'Perrier' with our male lion 'Jock' in 1991 won the Grande Prix at Cannes that year, making it the 'best in the world' for whatever that was worth ;-)

Most people would cringe if they saw the quality of writing that passes for a script these days. It's usually about a little country called "Africa" and involves the novel idea of a European/American Vet who comes to Africa to save the wildlife. All the black people belong to one tribe and live in mudhuts, all the white people are conservationists or poacher/racists. We long for the day when someone will write a good animal script but, when you see what happens to nice little films like 'Duma', we understand why Producers would rather put their money into 'Christmas with the Kranks, part 4' or yet another sequel/prequel/re-make of an old classic that never needed re-making in the first place !

Ahhhhhhh well, the movie business - I do love it really ;-)

Let's see what 2007 brings us !

again, very best to you and yours

Jim








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The movie was beautiful. The kids enjoyed it. The cheetahs were absolutely beautiful and trained so well. Amazing!

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This movie was MUCH better than The Two Brothers, imo. Can't even compare. It's a beautiful film. How dare Warners not give it all the promotion it could. Each film should stand on its own merits, not be compared to others.

My only quibble with the film was that Campbell Scott was in it so briefly, because I'm a fan, but other than that I really enjoyed it and so did my 9 year old daughter.

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I agree with the others here. I loved the film. It's a great family film with a good story, likeable characters, beautiful scenery and GORGEOUS cheetas!Oh, and don't forget the bush baby! How cute. I'm a sucker for a cute animal.
Such a shame that Warner Brothers chose not to promote this film. I don't remember ever hearing of it. I don't think I ever had the chance to see it on the big screen.Too bad. I'm definitely adding this one to my film collection and I'm already recommending it to friends. Now I'll have to check out "Elephant Tales".

Caryn
Fairbanks, Alaska

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We just watched this movie tonight (thanks Netflix!), made a family film night with cinema candy and the works. My two little ones (son 6 & daughter 3) loved it. My daughter is a cheetah lover, has a 'mommy' and 'babies' from an animal set that are near constant companions. We struggle to find movies we can watch together that can make some impact on the children, and this hit it big. Need to go pick it up on DVD now, so we can show it to family. Priceless movie that brought tears to my eyes as Xan watched Duma find his home. Keep up the great work and know that there are people in the world who appreciate well-made, wholesome entertainment, especially when the natural world in all its glorious splendour is shown.

Harry Peless
U.S.A.

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Very sad news just in from Olmense Zoo in Belgium (where our cheetah were bred) is that a woman was killed by a cheetah there on Sunday night. It had to happen sooner or later I suppose but until now, there had bever been a known fatal attack on humans by a cheetah. It seems the woman hid in the Zoo until all had gone home then went visiting a cheetah in its nighthouse ! Ironic that a woman who supported captive cheetah conservation should, by her misguided actions, provide the animal rights activists with a 'reason' to lobby for the closure of a great project like Olmense.

I suppose our film 'Duma' might create the illusion that ALL cheetahs are safe for humans at ALL times - (and with hand-raised cheetah that is mostly true most of the time) - it is a fine line that we tread ...................


Cheetah Mauls Woman to Death at Zoo

37-year-old Antwerp resident Karen Aerts was killed Sunday by cheetahs at the Olmense Zoo in northern Belgium after she entered their cage. She was part of a special program that allowed her to "adopt" a cheetah, and helped pay for its food.


That cheetah, named Bongo, was also involved in her death. Zoo spokesman Jan Libot said that "Karen loved animals. Unfortunately the cheetahs betrayed her trust." She was dead when employees discovered her in the cage.


They believe she found a hiding spot in the park and came out after they closed, located the keys to the cage and let herself in. An animal rights group says the zoo should be closed for good, citing dangers to both visitors and animals alike.

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First of all, I loved the movie and the cheetahs were wonderful and beautiful. Good work. It really is a shame that countless terrible movies (half of which are all about some inner city youth rising above his/her problems through hip-hop dance) are pushed out into 3,000 theaters and have tons of publicity. (I mean freaking Ghost Rider was #1 two weeks in a row?!) Meanwhile, great little movies like this get pushed aside. America really is going down the toilet. Thanks MTV.

Secondly, I really hope just because some idiotic woman broke into a wild animal's cage and got exactly what anyone would expect (and arguably, what she deserved), that they don't punish the animal (Bongo).

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Hi there,

Thanks for the kind words about 'Duma' - it really is a shame more people didn't see it, I agree will all you say about MTV/Jackass and hip-hop dancing ;-)

Regarding 'Bongo' - I know the people at Olmense and there is no chance they will take it out on the animals. None. It was a silly tragic accident. The woman mis-read the animals and was in the wrong place (their home) at the wrong time (at night, unannounced) - it's still the only fatal attack case I know of involving a cheetah.

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Hi, ndlovu8... I just saw Duma on HBO...we were originally watching 'Blood Diamond', but Duma was just so much more interesting.
I really loved it, the cheetah was so gorgeous.Absolutely breathtaking.

I love the names you've given your cheetahs.Wish I could meet them.

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I just watched this. I turned it on while doing housework, and ended up sitting down a spell. Great movie, congratulations!

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Me too, I just showed it to my class and they loved it

Great Job, Well Done :)

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It has been so long since we made this film, I should be over it (BUT I'm not;-)

I cannot tell you how delighted we all are (those of us that worked on 'Duma') that you all love it as much as us. Likewise, it sticks in my throat that the studio 'bean counters' treat family films in this way - a quality project with good values, educational entertainment, stunning visuals, non-violent, non-SFX etc gets dumped in favour of lavatorial, mindless, gangsta/hip-hop/drug-induced, explosive, SFX-ridden rubbish.

Where is the support for good story-telling that familes can watch together.

okay............ I'll calm down now and go feed a cheetah ;-)

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I finally saw this film that never made it to our neighborhood on initial release. Several major critics in the US decried the fact that WB so shamelessly dumped this beautiful film into the back wash. It is absolutely marvelous.
You can all be very proud of this effort-- a film that I know is being recommended by several of my friends who work in a video store. It's the perfect film to suggest to families with bright youngsters.
What a positive message it sends-- to kids and grownups alike.
I rented it this time--- but I think I may purchase a copy.
Hope you wonderful folk are suitably rewarded by the wonderful animals whose futures you are helping to guarantee!!

jhb-4

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I just wanted to say what a great movie "Duma" is. It really touched my heart to see the special bond between the boy and the cheetah. Kind of reminds me of the bond between myself and my cat, Charlie. Granted, Charlie is a housecat (tabby) but they're both part of the same family.

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Thank you so much for your part in making this fine film. We just finished watching it with our children and we all loved it! I will recommend it highly to all our friends.

Timothy B.




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