what i dont get they haven't even filled up the time slot. the bastards at comedy central should at least given them time so they wouldnt have to keep replaying whatever is on at 10 which even then is sometimes a rerun. those *beep* better put this show back on because i got nothin to watch anymore at 1130.
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I think, given everything we know, it's pretty easy to deduce why Tough Crowd was cancelled. The brass didn't like it and gave it a slow death. Look at the third season, it has all the evidense you could ever need. Scaled back airings (one episode a day, as opposed to everything else on the network that's usually shown at least twice a day), NO advertising of note, constant program reorganizations, and frequent breaks in the middle of the season. That's called killing a show, kids. You systematically drive away the audience until you have a valid reason to cancel it (in this case, sagging ratings).
I read somewhere that, even in its third season when it was basically subsisting on pre-existing fans with next to no new viewers Tough Crowd consistently tied with the dreadful Graham Norton Effect. That means Tough Crowd, a show aired once a day on no advertising with a crappy time slot tied an overblown, overproduced, overadvertised gay British jamboree that was aired at least twice a day (more on weekends). From this we can extrapolate that Tough Crowd could have been a very successful show if Comedy Central cared to promote it, so ultimately "unsatisfactory ratings" was an incredibly thin pretext to can the show.
I'd love to know how this political conspiracy crap caught on, by the way. I remember common sense taking precedent over political partisan *beep* on Tough Crowd (but not regular partisan *beep* that was their bread and butter).
Is it just me or is it incredibly difficult to attach yourself to a TV show these days? Just because we like a show ourselves doesn't mean it won't stay on the air. They just started showing this over here on Australian cable (thank god for reruns!) but I'm extremely sad to hear this got cancelled in the US. Television executives are cold, heartless bastards (forgive me for using the understatement of the century!)
shareYaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!It's cancelled yaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:):):):):):):):):):)
shareI enjoyed Tough Crowd for a while, but I got sidetracked from television for a while for whatever reason. Only now do I realize that it's gone. (Lots of things in my life are like that)
Colin fit as the host, but I also think Tough Crowd could have existed even if it were hosted by someone else and Quinn was never made known to us. One of the things I respected about he and most of the regulars is that they take comedy seriously. In a place where the general public (i.e. idiots) see something as more trivial than neccicary, it is refreshing to see that there are people around defending what they strive to accomplish. Art, comedy, sports and performance SHOULD take over buisness, government, religeon and marketing. I could be wrong on this, and I hope not, but I desperately want a world where the first four take over the latter four permanently.
The above was meant for the intended thread.
The below is ranting on other subjects brought up here.
Comedy Central is always sending me mixed messages. They do tend to come up with quality television, but then turn right around and slap you in the face whenever you drop your guard. For instance, the stand-up they play on CC is something they need to have more of. Not just on Fridays and peppered in during the rest of the week. The opposite of this is the CONSTANT molestation of my brain with MadTV. Wait. I like MadTV, but much in the way a sixteen-year-old likes Ecstacy. A little will entertain him, but load him up with the equivalent of one 24-hour period on Comedy Central's MadTV, and he's done. It's as if the universal filler on CC nowadays is Mad. "Empty timeslot? Nonsense! How many episodes of that MAD stuff we got left?"
I haven't heard anyone else mention this, but then again I haven't really looked. The movies that CC airs are complete wastes of energy. Not all, but MOST of the movies aired on Comedy Central shouldn't even be played on PBS at four in the morning. Those movies that are decent are destroyed via time-editing, content-editing and commercials. The latest bright idea pertaining to their movies is that Secret Stash thing they have going on where they play unedited movies at one in the morning. Unfortunately, they realized that that was too good of a perk, so they kept their ammunition of films to FIVE. I frequently stop by on CC while surfing. Multiple times per day. Eddie Murphy's stand up, Jay and Silent Bob, Dogma, SP: Bigger Longer and Uncut (nearly every other week, mind you). Fortunately, there does seem to be some leeway for the future. We'll see if they screw that up too.
Chapelle's Show is also overaired by far. I can't watch it anymore because of all the repeats, and I never can tell when it's supposed to be on. Come to think of it, Daily Show is the only show that I can remember being in the same time slot for years. It seems as though every week, while the CC executives are trying to come up with a set schedule of shows, someone bursts into the room wielding a chainsaw and goes berzerk. At least that's what it looks like whenever I see the CC promos.
Understand that I do not go to the TVGuide.com place and map out what shows to watch. I have way too much ADD for that. I take all this in from what I would consider the average channel surfing method, so I try to offer my opinions at best from a controled variable, and THEN take my leap. If I had a wall-sized electronic bulletin board, with all the weekly lineups and network news, I wouldn't feel the need to voice these opinions.
I think Comedy Central's main problem is that they overplay nearly everything. Chapelle's Show, MadTV, Crank Yankers, and South Park are the four main shows. All of them are great in small doses, but that is a concept that CC does not grasp. You allways leave them wanting a little more, not stuffing that last turkey leg down their throat with your foot. But, we go back to Comedy Central's fetish for playing ping-pong. There are shows that they do currently air sucessfully in terms of frequency, but not neccicarily in terms of schedulding. Strangers with Candy, Reno 911, and Insomniac come to mind.
They promo the wrong shows, especially the cartoon reruns. The Critic, Duckman, and Dilbert should be part of some sort of a prime-time lineup. Maybe CC wants to be a rebel in the department of schedulding, but more like one of those emo freaks. As an aside, what the hell happened to Kid Notorious, Drawn Together and Shorties? It's almost spooky. At least on networks like ABC they let you know when a show is going to get the axe. And then there's the shows that have no buisness on television. Trigger Happy TV, TV Funhouse, Travel Sick, Wanda does It, Primetime Glick, The Man Show (ver. 2.0), and the Comedy Central Roasts. Comedy Central is not the place for a ROAST, and then again, it's all we've got.
So I find myself wondering why I, having no broadcasting and network television experience, feel like I could run Comedy Central better than whoever is at the helm now. Even if I had an elephant pounding me in the ass and my face was on fire. Interestingly enough, I do believe all of these problems could be solved with one solution. Get it off cable. Make it a subscription channel. We are now living in an age where one hundred billion channels is the norm. It is already here. Accept the changes and life will be much sweeter. Take a cue from XM Radio, which in my opinion has to be one of the top social improvements to this country. Get your entertainment via box, and DO NOT complain to me about what your children are exposed to. Did you hear me? The technology is already here. You can lock channels out. You piss-ant PTA/soccer/bible-thumping parents get a grip on reality and stop complaining for the sake of hearing your own voice. If you want to do that at home, fine. Doing it with your head in the oven and the temperature set to five-hundred degrees makes for the best sound amplification.
I'm sure I had more to say, but I've completely lost track of what I was actually going for through this whole thing. My momentum is gone. I've probably made the main point of it, though. Happy flaming.
Colin Quinn was very funny. and *beep* all of you who thought Nick Depolowhatever wasnt. Im sorry there were alot of funny dudes on the show and he wanst one of them. He was just not funny. Im sorry. Disagree with me all you want he just was a bitch. I couldnt stand him thats why i quit watching the show.
shareYou know what, the show rocked except for Colin Quinn. I laughed every single night, and usually skipped the first 2 minutes were Quinn did his terrible monolog. Comedians usually need something called delivery...and Colin Quinn's idea of a delivery is stuttering through a pretty lame joke. Want to know how to tell the man is unfunny... 95% of the jokes he tells in the entire series fell completely flat, no audience laughter whatsoever. The 5% of jokes that were good could have been delivered by a retarded monkey.
Jon Stewart is excellent. While some of his correspondence arent as good as they used to be. The older ones like Mo Rocca, Stephen Colbert and the others were great, some of the new ones now arent that good. The fact remains that Jon Stewart is one of the funniest comedians of the last 10 years, even before he did TDS. He actually has a delivery, you cant tell he does because people laugh at his jokes...thats usually a big giveaway.
Im not happy Tough Crowd got canceled. I think they should have replaced Colin Quinn with one of the regular panalists. I think there was a week where Patton Oswald hosted for about a week. Brilliant. Quinn...not... Good Riddence Colin Quinn, get a job where people can like you more then they do. Say...telemarketer? That would be a step up.
I am completely sick of hearing about how the show would have been better without Colin because it's a completely ridiculous argument. Sure, he probably wasn't as funny as some of the regulars, but he wasn't just the host, he was the damn center of the program.
1.) The regulars weren't just a group of comedians who tested well, they were Colin's friends from the NY comedy scene, so right off the bat we know the show wouldn't have been the same without Colin.
2.) Colin was quite probably the only one of the regs who could command enough respect to make the others work as a panel together. He's not just an NYC comedian, he's an elder statesman in the scene itself. Immediately after Tough Crowd ended Greg Geraldo (one of the regs) was tapped to put together a Tough Crowd clone, the word on the street at the time was none of the old Tough Crowd regs would appear on Geraldo's show (which ultimately didn't get picked up).
3.) Colin fostered the attitude that made Tough Crowd so great. It wasn't the boring, innocuous nonsense that typifies way too many comedy shows nowadays (even interview shows), it was a panel of pros who took their jobs seriously. These guys treated comedy as an art form and produced some startlingly funny television because of it. The only bad episodes were the ones where hacks sat on the night's panel, and even then they had to be spectacularly bad to really *beep* up the program.
getting rid of tough crowd was a bad decision, same as when they threw out SNL and pretty much tried to replace it with mad tv. comedy central has been getting worse and worse for the past 3 years.
sharetough crowd was one of the funniest shows on comedy central . They are fools to have canceled it. It always had the funniest people. And the ideas they had on the show were orignal. Now comedy central is trying to throw all these new shows out there like mencia,carolla,DL . Carolla is good the other two aren't that great. But colin quin is the king.
shareI tried to like this show, I really did. But the guy couldn't finish a sentence or utter a coherent thought. And after a while, it wears on the nerves. I didn't like him on SNL, especially since all he did was mess up lines and hurl insults at the audience for booing. I tried to have an open mind about this one, and he didn't live up to it. I'm pretty sure Comedy Central was thinking along the same lines.
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