Inventive film making




The South Korean film makers put their Hollywood equilivants to shame...there is more origonality in stoytelling and use of the camera, quirky shots and inventive use of special effects than in the entire American top ten. this and Oldboy are two real gems and I'm currently delving further into the wonderful world of Korean cinema......It is a huge shame that half this imaginative lyrical humourous and intelligent nation live in such an apalling repressive regime....

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I agree, all the recent great movies seem to made in some foreign/Asian country rather than hollywood. But they have different kind of target audience. Hollywood aims for masses & money while Korea aims for great & innovative movies.

Too bad its very hard to find Korean movies :/

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I really wish people would stop putting down American movies, I love Korean movies, but how many come out a year, how many of those are noteworthy. Very few movies done in Korea couldn't be done somewhere else, that's just the law of averages. The very nature of the Korean film industry would not permit a 200 million dollar movie so JSA, My Sassy Girl, STGP. and even Attack the Gas Station are just movies that are more or less a product of the combination of American film influence and budget capacity. In five years Korean movies will start to seem trite just like american movies, look at Japan.

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What a bunch of crap. The studios here in America have ruined cinema. They no longer tell stories or take chances. That's why we see so many remakes. All the studios care about is the bottom line. In Korea, for whatever reason, they're still willing to push the boundries of film, and tell stories. Law of averages my ass.

I can easily rattle off many great Korean films that have been released over the last 8 years ... not so easy with American films ...
When was the last time something as original as Oldboy came out of the US? Even if that film were to be made here, I'd bet my house that the storyline would be changed in drastic fashion. People are just telling it like it is: American films at this point in time are not at the same level as Korean films. I don't know why you would take it so personal or be so bothered by it. Making stupid excuses to explain it away is pretty pathetic.

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You forgot Paycheck

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I agree with the first poster. Film-making is about originality, inventiveness and style. Asian cinema is amazing and really innovative I'm really getting into it more and more all the time.

Mainstream Hollywood just seems so fake and *beep* I don't relate to what they produce.

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'On the contrary, those who've been watching Asian movies all their lives, are finding them fake, pretentious and *beep* that they don't relate to it anymore.'

Dude, I don't know about other Asian countries, but in south korea, every hollywood blockbuster is played in almost every korean theatre about a week after it's shown in the U.S.

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"On the contrary, those who've been watching Asian movies all their lives, are finding them fake, pretentious and *beep* that they don't relate to it anymore.

To them, Hollywood and western and European movies is like a breath of fresh air. For example to Chinese who've never seen big Hollywood blockbusters, but once they saw it for the first time - it simply blew their mind. China have no movies like America."




Funny. In Korea, top 5 grossing movies are almost always home produced korean films. In fact, the opposite of what you said is true. Foreign nations are used to being bombarded with Hollywood films that something of their own is a breath of fresh air for them. Recently, there was some agreement with the U.S. to shorten the amount of time that Korean films can be put on theater, so they can play more Hollywood films in Korea.

Well...not so much agreed, but it was discussed. Hope that didn't get passed.

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Don't ever call yourself an Asian again, you're a disgrace to our race. I bet that you have asian parents but grew up in US. Having asian ethnicity doesn't necessarily make you belong to Asian group, stupid fck. And being an Asian doesn't automatically make you a Korean expert. Just think before shooting your mouth off. Copying ideas from Hong Kong? Being a Korean myself, I've never even seen a hongkong movie shown in our theatres.

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'Korean movies are just Japanese Wannabe'

...in this day and age the above affirmation seems a bit childish to say the least. Everyone is influencing everyone - this phenomenon cannot be stopped, and it is to be appreciated as long as some of the work stays "high quality".

Korean movies have a distinct identiy of their own, just like Hong Kong, Italy, France, Great Britain, etc. and it is all to be appreciated...
Shame you fail to see that...

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To me, Asian films (and foreign films in general) are typically more original, innovative, and altogether interesting than most American films simply because of the American mass culture. When a typical conformist American goes to see a "Hollywood" film, he expects the film to have a certain degree of acessability and "star power." If the movie he watches features a popular cultural icon such as Tom Cruise, he automatically judges it as a "Tom Cruise" movie, and expects it to fall within the limits of "Tom Cruise's" typecast persona (no offense to him, as I quite enjoyed "Vanilla Sky," which was, of course, a remake of a FOREIGN FILM, "Abre Los Ojos." Which makes no difference anyway, as most Americans were too stupid to understand either one). Most modern American films are so caught up in a web of "Hollywood" cliches, stereotypes, harsh public mass-media scrutiny and the production company's driving urge to create money-makers that they fall blissfully short of the creativity mark set by foreign films. The concept also works with music. I'm not automatically dismissing all American films here, of course. Filmakers such as Terry Gilliam ("Brazil" is an all-time fave), Quentin Tarentino, and the Coen Brothers have suceeded in creating some of the most unconventionally excellent films of all time, not to mention some genuinely great mainstream films. It's the endless string of comic-book/ video game remakes, cheesy summer romance-comedies and that anti-Semetic rascist money-grubbing capitalist exploitationalist mind-controling sadist Walt Disney that I'm griping about. "Hitch," "Must Love Dogs," "Fantastic Four," "Gigli," "National Treasure," "Kangaroo Jack," "Yours, Mine and Ours," ect...

Now, take a film like "Green Planet." It's a comedic, gory and slightly romantic Sci-fi drama about an insane meth-addled UFO-crazy megalomaniac who, along with his dangerously unattractive tightrope-walking girlfriend, kidnap the CEO of a chemical company under the (accurate) assumption that he is an alien from the galaxy of Andromeda who has come here to destroy the Earth, and torture him in his basement with menthol rub. Unconventional? Of course. Original? Yeah. I simply do not understand why some people believe that this film is derivative of anything, much less inferior to "Paycheck" or "X-Men." The acting is incredible, and all the more rewarding without the burden of known actors, the cinematography is unique and highly effective and it accomplishes the fusion of many genres with greater uniqueness and power than a Hollywood movie could accomplish with one. And, of course, there are countless other examples of unconventional Asian films beating the @#*% out of American Box-office smashes in terms of originality and inventiveness, such as "Sympathy for Mr. Vengance" (The lead character here is a deaf mute who does not speak once throughout the entire film, and the entire plot is based around a freelance crooked organ-supplying organization's mugging and theft of his kidney. Hmmm... Do you think we can get Michael Bay to direct?),"Oldboy," "Ichi the Killer," "Audition," "Three Extremes," "Battle Royale," "Suicide Club," "Attack the Gas Station," "The Happiness of the Katakuris," yada, yada, yada.
Do us all a favor: If you are an American conformist who likes to watch Dennis Quaid and Joan Cussak flicks with your equally flock-like friends, don't bother to judge inventive, artistic and unique films which actually add something to the universe.

P.S. I am an American teenager.


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theres still laods of original inventive american films coming out every year, look at kiss kiss bang , stop slaging the americans off and just enjoy the different films from around the world

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this movie was Misery from the point of view of the tourterer with aliens the director himself said so. I also detect some Miike like flashbacks (ala Audition) and the overall tone resemble Evil Dead 2 and Undead. Originality and weird are not the same thing.

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this movie was Misery from the point of view of the tourterer with aliens the director himself said so. I also detect some Miike like flashbacks (ala Audition) and the overall tone resemble Evil Dead 2 and Undead. Originality and weird are not the same thing.

Yes, how dare the director be inspired by something!

I think one of the main reasons Americans like films done in Asia is that most of the mainstream, Michael Bay-like movies can't do well over here. Finding Korean movies requires some work, so the people who go see movies shearly for escapist purposes that don't want anything more than to see something get blown up don't buy them. This makes them not worth translating or promoting, and so Region 1 DVD's in Asian languages are generally targeted at a niche market of which some of us happen to fall into.

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How could STGP be influenced by a film (Undead) that hadn't even come out yet?

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Kiss Kiss Bang bang was a pile of Tosh
It thought it was witty and clever but just dissappeared up its own rectum

I didnt say that \\american movies are not original I LOVE American movies, i was referring to HOLLYWOOD Studio movies
American independent cinema is still the best in the world

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"Korean movies are Japanese Wannabe. They copy ideas from Japan and Hong kong and only have 1 or 2 good films every few years. Which is why most Koreans prefer to watch American movies. It's true... as an Asian, Hollywood movies have better storyline, special effects, and acting. Sorry my fellow asians. ;-)

My favourite movies are

Serenity
Spiderman 2
X-men
The Incredibles
Aliens
SAW 1 & 2
Terminator 1 & 2
2001: A space odyssey
Matrix
Narnia
Contact
Gattacca
Artificial Intelligence
Lord of the Rings
Star Wars Trilogy


Even one of these movies are better than ALL asian films put together, and one that Asia can never make. Hollywood RULES!!!"

what? do you even live in korea or even been there? from my experience, being korean, living in korea for almost 15 years and currently still residing here, koreans watch a pretty wide range of movies (which my be a factor to inovative korean movie making). in theaters over here, you get a wide range of movies to watch, including some hollywood blockbusters but also movie from all over the world. the same goes with television, your basic tv channels over here consist of like 5 movie channels, showing all sorts of movies from different parts of the world. not evey korean movie is good and korean movies may be a little hyped in the us due to the fact that americans arne't use to watching korean films, but they do produce some very good stuff. i've watched my fair share of hollywood blockbusters and korean films and i would perfer watching a korean film almost any day of the week (there are still some good and decent hollywood films). you my friend are a disgrace to asians, the only good film you mentioned is 2001: a space odyssey.

and 5 words for you, annex of korean by japan. why would we want to be like them, they already tried to force us.

everybody is a japanese wannabe, it's freaking annoying.

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Saw 1&2 , spiderman 2, contact, narnia,

all better than oldboy

ha ha don't make me laugh

thats just your opinion

you say as an Asian, Hollywood movies have better storyline

well american is a big rich country who make great movies but also make a lot of terrible movies too

check out imdb's worst movies

And so what if your asian doesn't mean your right about your opinion. Where were you born anyway?

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I agree with this post. People who don't realise the core of Hollywood is so larlgy pinched from Asia. Try the Streetfighter series of the 70's to beat Rambo et all, try A Better Tomorrow and Hard Boiled to beat the Matrix, try Zebraman to beat X-MEN, try Audition for Saw, for Termanitor try I'm A Cyborg But That's OK or Full Metal Yakuza (not that great but comedy), try The Great Yokai War for the Asian LOTR, and I'll look forward to the first real Asian Star Wars style film.

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why at last diversify this all into a culture debate?

I would guess as a film fan you'd just appreciate a good movie neverthless from where it comes.

I've seen unique and great movies from New Zealand to Canada to Brazil to South Africa.

What matters is that the movie will grab you and pull you into it's world and entertain you in a way or another.

That's what movies are about.

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thats what I meant by HALF

the Northern Part,
They are ALL Koreans

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Wow, you are a moron. You are one pathetic asian. You discrace us all. You don't happen to be Taiwanese do you? That would explain a lot...

"Dammit, Sulik died again! I'm taking back my Mega Powerfist, worthless tribal!"

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im sorry to say, yea a lot more inventive then the usual trite hollywood b.s. but this film is a step towards hollywood in my opinion

I just dont buy it emotionally. I really dont see a personal message behind it or any thing really felt by the film makers, just a collaborative effort that ultimatly is there is make money.

I love korean cinema but you guys have the wrong picture. America isnt hollywood, we have good films too. Its just hollywood b.s. is advertised like hell while the good stuff arnt. And trust me, iv seen my fair share of *beep* korean films.

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indeed this film is like nothing i've seen before.. i've seen a lot of original movies, and this one is one of them. Though the film is insanely entertaining and original, it does not come close to the best korean film (and in my opinion the best asian film) oldboy. However this film is still an inventive piece of cinematic work.
THis sort of product would have been very difficult to make in America..not only by Hollywood, but also by independent cinema ( and i've seen a lot)..

however it is true that, like america, not all korean movies are good...only a bunch of them are truly unique.

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