Cato Institute and Dishonesty


Does anyone else think it's *beep* up that people from the Cato institute can be consulted for interviews, but it's never disclosed that Penn Jillett himself is a H.L. Menken Research fellow at that very same think tank?

Does anyone else think that's just a little dishonest?

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No, I think it is extremely dishonest. Can they spell "conflict of interest"?

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I know the anti vax nuts hate Penn and Teller.

The people who don't like the show invariably have a single source, flat earth view. Look at the gun control show. it accurately predicted US gun murder would go down.

Were Penn and Teller to use pro gun control groups claiming it would go up?

Really do you expect Penn and Teller to use flat earthers?

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Sounds more like you two are just desperate to wish away objective arguments you can't counter by inventing vapid conspiracy theories, all while hypocritically indulging in the confirmation biases you're launching at them.

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The TRUTH is that you can't negate personal experiences by mocking them, you only provide yourself more room for smugness. Which is the case here.

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right, and i bet you think michael moore gives honest representations of both sides.

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Huh? How on earth is that a remotely relevant reply?

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how do you not know that it's a relevant reply? moore is exactly like penn and teller just on the other side of the spectrum. the difference is that moore's liberal ideological rants and BS editing somehow wins oscars.

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Well, Moore makes movies, and BullS_hit was a tv show. Tv shows aren't eligible for oscars.

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And Oscars are worthless and awarded solely for political reasons.

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how do you not know that it's a relevant reply? moore is exactly like penn and teller just on the other side of the spectrum.

Yes - but how is this relevant? Had the OP praised Moore you would've had a point, but no one mentioned Moore.

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Who defended Michael Moore? Believe it or not, there are non-ideologues out there who can call bullsh_t when they see it, regardless of the political affiliation of the bullsh_tter.

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You failed to mention how CATO is dishonest. I know that Marxists and Greens are dishonest, and find it hard to believe any skeptic does not.

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They are also magicians. By your logic, they cannot ever discuss magic tricks with anyone from the Magic Castle, but must find people outside of their level of expertise.

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Why would they not mention it? That seems like something kind of major to choose not to disclose. My bet is that they know their positions depend almost entirely on CATO research, and Penn being a member would cast their assertions as... Wait for it... Bullsh_t.

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You are making a classic generative fallacy.

What is your specific example of incorrect information from CATO?

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Why WOULD they mention it? It has no bearing on the evidence presented, and only matters to conspiracy theory whackjob types who can't counter fact and thereby strawgrasp for tenuous connections so they can dismiss opposition as "shills".

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Why WOULD they mention it?

Because it's the normal thing to do. Not mentioning it is tantamount to trying to hide one's bias. In academia, this is a huge red flag.

It has no bearing on the evidence presented, and only matters to conspiracy theory whackjob types who can't counter fact and thereby strawgrasp for tenuous connections so they can dismiss opposition as "shills".

Not if they freely disclose it, no. But by not disclosing it, the accusation sticks.

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Sounds more like you're desperately grasping for straws to dismiss information you don't like via circumstantial ad hominem by deliberately overplaying innocuous connections.

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