Bad movie


This movie was one of the baddest movies I have seen this year.

Enough said already. If you read the rest you are in for a shock.




Cliche rubbish.

When the Japanese business man dies diving head first into a billabong, Toni Collette goes way over board in her reaction.

This is the movie that Adaptation should have been.

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I agree, i hated it, but it wasn't Toni Collette that was bad, it was the movie itself. Specifically the lack of a script or plot.

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i fear these comments are being made by 7 year olds. this is a serious movie, for adults.

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even serious movies should have a plot.

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gotta say that i agree with you there, v-nurcombe :)

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Ah I see you are a film art snob.

Just because 2 poeple in their 40s believe that this Australian movie had no story except to show the acting talents of Toni Collette then we are not serious movie goers?

Mmmmm Lets see you put us down for loving and in some instance owning Chocolat, Bread and Tulips, The Tango Lesson, Le Fabuleux destin d'Amélie Poulain (yes the french DVD version) etc. Oh I see now we love foreign movie, eh and not Aussie movies?

Just because 2 out of many people did not like this choppy movie as others have not (thus the rather poor rating) somehow we are immature?

I suggest you keep of the chardonnay for a while (and hand it over to us).

PS: I would be interested to hear more from the Americans who have seen this
piece of drivel at the recent American film festivals.

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for your remark, i am not a film art snob.. i'm just suggesting probably it is for older generation and maybe it is just not your cuppa tea but it is mine..
and yes i do love chocolat and foreign movie etc and sorry if i'm missing your point, but just because i love this movie doesn't mean that i'm a fanatic.. yes there is a few plotholes but overall this movie is one of the greatest australian movies :)

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I am an eighteen yearold american girl living in new york city. I saw this film at the Anjelika Film Center and I was more than impressed. It is truly, in my opinion, a thing of beauty.

I have rarely seen a film that so piercingly illustrates the transcendant healing power of love. This film showed me that love reaches out through all human constructs, be they social, physical, or cultural. It is a small story that through the artistry of it's production, on the part of everyone involved, left me profoundly affected.

This is not to say that everyone would be touched by this film in the same way that I was. That is impossible, different people inevitably will have different reactions. But my reaction is a testament to the fact that this film does have the potential and the power to move a person deeply, and in a hugely positive way.

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I'm 18 too, and I was completly moved by this movie. I has a beautiful story, really deep and mature about love and relationships.

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I really enjoyed this film. I started watching it part way through (when they were stranded in the outback). My initial reaction was one of strong dislike for the characters. She was annoying, loud and brash - he was rigid, domineering and uptight. I am SO glad I watched it to the end. It took me on a journey that portrayed how love, passion and respect can grow between two completely opposite individuals. Despite the differences that result from living worlds apart, not only geographically but culturally as well. Beautiful, tragic, and moving.

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Okay. Three years later, but I will respond to this as an American who saw the movie (a while ago, granted, but I've read much of this board and am still, after all of the threads I've read around here, surprised by what I stumble upon... go figure)...

I'm in my early forties and female. I'm not an art snob, a movie snob or any other sort of snob that I'm aware of, but would just like to say first and foremost, that when you do not like the movie, it does not automatically make the movie bad. It means simply that you did not like the movie. Possibly, the movie was bad. But perhaps you should simply state the comment, "I did not like the movie," and why. Because honestly? Some of these posts sound a little ridiculous. *when I say YOU, I'm not addressing you specifically, above poster, I'm talking in general to everyone out here in message-board land... do not feel slammed, please.*

Okay. So the movie. I really enjoyed it. Toni Collette did a wonderful job as did Gotaro Tsunashima. Over the top? Who can say how they themselves would act if a person they were with dove into a body of water and broke their neck dying instantly right in front of them.

The cinematography was lovely.

I am a fan of a couple of the movies you've mentioned above, have not seen others, do not own any of them. Does this make me a bad person or have some obvious problem that makes me somehow deficient and my opinion not count for you?

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I've only just seen it too. I hated it. I thought the script was so laboured, obvious and the resulting scenes were just un-natural. Toni Collette is the finest actress working today and she gave a fantastic performance but I don't think this stretched her at all. There was fundamentally no chemistry between the two leads so I think that is why her reaction appeared 'over the top'. It came as a surprise that she was in love with this guy at all. Potentially this could have been great but perhaps less dialogue and more atmosphere was required.

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Sorry, what? "no chemistry between the two leads"? The whole film is about the chemistry between the two leads. This is one of the most powerful films about 'crashing' into love I have ever seen. I resent that there is even a thread here entitled 'Bad Movie' which just invites tantrum postings. The thread will continue with this heading for ever unless it is moderated. (That's a weakness of these IMdB boards.)

My own view - for what it's worth - is that Japanese Story is such advanced film-making that it may even be a new genre. Many years from now it will be regarded as so ahead of its time it was all but overlooked by our generation. As one example - I believe it will be recognised that the performance of Gotaro Tsunashima - in what, for him, was a foreign language film - is breath-taking in its subtle perfection. His work with Toni Collette in this film is a triumph of the actor's art. I hope he will continue to be offered great roles. The film is a masterpiece.

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"tantrum postings"

I'm sorry you read my post as a tantrum - it wasn't an angry post at all - I was expressing an opinion- I just didn't believe their relationship, didn't believe the sequence of events and didn't believe that there was a deep loving relationship between the two leads - their relationship left me cold.

This is a discussion forum - to discuss you need to share honest opinions... It would be great if everyone agreed on everything but hey welcome to real life.

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Thank-you. I could not agree more.

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The movie has a script (even if it was minimal in words) and i hate to tell ya it has a plot too, perhaps you don't have the patience for such films though. Sometimes things can be said without words and this is true in films as it is true in life. I think the director let the actors expressions and the amazing environment of Australia's outback do a lot of the talking. The film lets your mind react to the situations the two characters encountered instead of just telling you outright where and how they will deal with it.i thought this film was great but like all movies it's not for everyone. This isn't a bad film however just because you didn't get it.

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I was planning on seeing this, because I have heard good reports, and i knew there was a twist, but thankyou so much fo blatantly telling what i guess is a key event....!!

Much appreciated...maybe next time you should think of other people who may want to see the film though......

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If you are afraid of spoilers look elsewhere than on a chat board

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Well, if people are going to go on a BOARD where people are discussing the movie, you have to expect people to be discussing the PLOT! (or in this case a lack of one, in my opinion) What else would you expect? I agree with vbagusau - look elsewhere than on a chatboard.

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Funky, If you were planning on seeing the movie and you wanted to avoid spoilers, you should check out the movie reviews. This is the message board, where people DISCUSS the movie.

Um.. and seeing as it's kind of difficult to discuss a movie that you haven't seen, it is reasonable to assume that people don't need to give spoiler warnings.

It's not your fault that you didnt realise, but maybe next time avoid the message boards until after you've seen the movie ;) ... like most people would expect.

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Hang on, you just rebuted my point by suggesting that it's *not* difficult to DISCUSS a movie that you havn't seen because people who are eagar to see a film like to see what other people are saying about it and so they go where comments are being made about it... Yeah.. like 'User Comments'. Ever heard of that?

Yes, people who haven't seen a movie may be interested to *see what other people are saying about it* but this is entirely different to actually *discussing* the movie.

"...and no, I'm not going to stop looking at boards for movies I haven't and may wish to see."

Well, do what you like. No one's going to stop you. Just don't complain about how you think that not giving spoiler warnings *on a message board* is "thoughtless", because I have already explained to you how it's not thoughtless.. because people view messages boards as being for the purpose of DICUSSION... Which is *entirely* different from "seeing what other people think."

No need to thank me. I'm only trying to help.

But.. on the same note, I do see what you mean. If I ever want to comment about a movie and its not really obvious in the title of the discussion that it's going to be about the plot, I'll insert a spoiler warning.. But I still maintain that these people here weren't "thoughtless".

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Like pants. Where did she get her pants?

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hahaha lmfao!!!! good one

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won that argument? um, i never thought there was one...and besides I do think that noone can tell you whether a movie is good or bad, you have to see it yourself. That's why i NEVER GO ON MESSAGE BOARDS BEFORE I SEE A MOVIE!!!! Get the picture?

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Somebody just tell me the brand name of her trousers! What is the point of product placement if you are going to keep the brand name a deathly secret?

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Allow me to contradict you: I thought the movie was elegiac and superb. Toni's acting was so realistic it was almost painful to watch.

Perhaps the plot wasn't as intricate as the Usual Suspects or the like, but this movie was aiming for a more realistic tone, and an Australian geologist giving a grand tour to a visiting Japanese businessman could be described no better than that which this movie illustrated. I am suggesting that you were looking for a movie with a larger than life story that has a movie-compatible plotline. Japanese story simply did not aim for your expectations. I, on the other hand, appreciated the delicacy with which the director handled the subject matter. I think the movie was so raw and poignant because the plot elements were more akin to the pace of a normal life and thus the audience would have little trouble relating.

I left the cinema in a haze, and I still remember how shaken I was. No Hollywood movie ever inspires emotion to that degree. They're too involved with bright flashy colours and faster plot paces to hold short attention span movie patrons.

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Hear hear!

Best movie of 2003 in my opinion. And you are so right about being shaken. My two movie-going companions and I were shell-shocked for a couple of hours after seeing this film.

9/10.

(By the way, lucky I didn't read this board first, where dickheads reveal key plot points without revealing that they're about to include a spoiler. Knowing the plot point that was revealed here would have completely RUINED the film.)

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I'd like to know how vbagusau-1 would react if he'd just witnessed someone dive head first into a creek, then resurface dead with a broken neck?

My reaction would have been just as Toni's, if not worse - and i'm a nurse.

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hey, this is a very deleted board eh?

um, i dont want to get swamped with hate messages. but i was one of the few that didn't thoroughly enjoy this movie.
Sure, the emotions were there, and everything seemed real including the acting AND i was actually in a state of shock after seeing the movie, shock for about an hour or two. becuase it really wasn't what you would expect.

However, i did agree that toni collete's (spelling?) acting at his death was quite over the top, i dont know whether it was the direction or just the script. It just seemed a waste of film time to have her squirming about wailing at the poor man's body. sure, it was her lover and there was a deep connection but if she was in the audience's position -as film and theatre so often connect with the audience and they feel the characters pain- then wouldn't she also be in a state of shock as most of us were?

i mean, hats off to the people that did the film, its great to have an australian film recognised overseas but i don't know whether there was just TOO much of a good thing or whether there was not enough of a good thing to begin with. i dont think i will see it again, the intensity in the film seemed to override the enjoyment. therefore making it a macarbe experience that i dont wish to repeat any time soon.

"I dont do drugs; if i want a rush I just stand up when I'm not expecting it" -Dylan Moran

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yeah i was a bit disappointed also. the scenery was great, i love the north west, but i thought toni collette over-acted throughout the whole film , not just the death scene (what's with those facials?!). after that i sat there thinking "where's this going?" - and it went nowhere.

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I was really into the movie until the incident and then Toni's character hardly says anything--she never explains to her mother or her friends what she's going through, although I suppose it isn't necessary. And then the loud sound track to make up for the lack of dialogue. I don't have to have constant dialogue but the fact she kept everything bottled in with no explanations to anyone didn't seem realistic.

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The movie is rubbish.

BTW, I liked Schindlers List and Annie Hall, so you can't really call me a 7 year old.

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Hmm I wouldnt get "shocked" if I'd think that main character’s acting was over the top, I wouldnt feel anything actually, but apperantely the movie had some sort of impact on most of you.
It was unexpected and unconventinal since the 1 half of the film included light comedy and signs of blossoming romance and I'm just glad to be one of the many who enjoyed its transition into a darker side. Don't confuse personal disappointments and inabilities to deal with harsh truth with a film that doesn’t follow a straight line or offers a happy ending. And especially don’t blame or look for a plot in a film that just gives you so few characters/places to look at and deal with. It was a good portrayal of two different strangers simply meeting and getting close in the desert and then it was even a better depiction shown of the worst possible thing happening to one of them.

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I trust anyone who did not want to know the story of the film has already bailed.
Just the fact that I was shaken by the pivotal scene was unusual. I agree that Sandy's reaction was not over the top. She was not merely a witness, she was responsible. I've worked in ERs and seen some very "over the top" reactions to sudden death. That's what happens - we snap.
Also, we are not used to seeing a main character go without warning. It was horrifying and disconcerting.
Toni Colette is a treasure. Will not forget this fim for a long while.

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