*beep* Jesse Jackson! I believe the Eddie character played by Cedric said that in Barbershop. It's bad enough that the producers apologised to Jackson and his cronies, now Jackson want's them to delete footage from the home video release! If they do they are cowards. *beep* Jesse Jackson. Great movie btw.
shareNow that the political barbs are flying and I hear threats of censorship and harrassment I've got to go see it. The best advertising is sometimes a reverse unintended reaction or is it that ol' Jesse wants us to see it? Funny that in the history of this country all censorship bs came from the people that wanted to censor the words of Jesse and Martin et al. Now they got some political power and they become the censors. This is not good. In fact, if the movie is good I just might watch it twice!
shareIt sounds like Jesse can dish it out but can't take it. Sorry people, I think the man is a race whore. If it wasn't for racism, the man would be out of a job. As it is he has made himself quite rich as well as some of his friends form the business of extortion in the name of diversity. The man is corrupt and the IRS needs to check out his books to make sure he is on the up and up. As a civil rights leader he can't hold MLK jock. Jesse is in it for Jesse.Besides lately Jesse been on the wrong side of several fights. As a man of God, I didn't know he could serve God and money too. I think the man fans more racism than he helps prevent. Then again it is for his own job security.
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I think it's due to the fact that at the time King was shot, he was in a hotel room with a hooker. Not only that, but a white hooker from the south.
Sort reminds me of how the majority of the cast of ROOTS is married to white women, lol.
One thing I hate about Jackson is the fact that after promising King that if anything ever happend to him, he'd provide for Kings wife and kids, he completely turned on them due to race. you see, King's family for years has questioned whether or not James Earl Ray, his supposed killer was actually guilty of the crime. They even were trying to get him out of jail for a while when they heard he was ill, but Jackson called them disgraces to their father's/husband's cause and name.
Sweetthangrenee, Great post.
~Never judge a book by it's cover, only by it's dedication~
For one thing, the FBI was doing a huge COINTELPRO on MLK, including the planting of stories in cooperative newspapers and magazines about his alleged affairs - one of the many ways of attempting to discredit his bone fides as a religous leader. Funny when you think about it, the cross-dressing director of the FBI planting stories about MLK's supposed interludes.
After Dr. King's death, there were several women who claimed relationships with him. I can't vouch for the accuracy of any as I haven't researched any for myself.
But there is a lot of readily available info on the COINTELPROs of the FBI (done against a large number of "subversives" such as MLK, the Black Panther Party, the KKK, to name a few).
But, in short, there was widespread gossip about all of MLK's affairs, thus the Eddie comment.
yea i think your right and jesse need to get back to his roots he needs to just laugh at things like this its all fictional its not all true
shareHe has a right to his opinion. I think its been blown out of proportion. After all, he did know Martian Luther King Jr. He was his friend after all.
shareI agree w/you completely
shareSo what if Jesse knew MLK? I think one of the things Reverend King relished and utilized the most was his right to FREE SPEECH.
shareCan I get an aaaamen!
shareDon't worry about it the footage did not get deleted from the movie! Trust me. I got the DVD.
shareI can't even believe it was PG-13... I LOVE IT!!!
as an person of color i just wanna say that i feel everytime something happens to a black person nowadays, jackson automatically assumes racism. Now im not saying that we dont get dealt a bad card but racism aint always the case. We all know that we bring some of out own misfortunes on ourselves, we not always innocent.
Now dont get me wrong, i appreciate everything Dr. King and the ones before him and mostly after him have done for me but personally i dont respect the man, hes a fake. For example, when Clinton was having his white house/personal problems, Jackson was guiding him or whateva; but we come to find out that Jackson himself all this time was cuttin out on his own wife. True everyone makes mistakes but he just acts so high and mighty.
As far as wanting those scenes cut out the movie, its a movie, its met to entertain and raise eyebrows. Black history is taught for maybe a week in schools today, so i was really taken back when i heard about jackson wantin the film cut and for hearin how Rosa Parks boycotted Cedric at the awards show(dont remember which one it was though). Now she sues OutKast. OutKast brought attention to Parks, and she turns around and sue's em. Last i heard of the lawsuit, Parks was claiming among other stuff that because of OutKast some special or something was canceled or defect. THat one i didnt understand. Whats happening to our icons?
Right on, Sweetthangrenee:
"As far as wanting those scenes cut out the movie, its a movie, its met to entertain and raise eyebrows."
EXACTLY! Movies are meant to do one thing, entertain. So much the better if they educate along the way, and Cedric's lines in this film fulfill both of those criteria, I LOVED it on many levels. Cube is awesome as usual. VERY entertaining & enjoyable, a must-see (coming from a person of non-color...er...you know what I mean).
I'm not a person of color, and I won't venture too deeply into this topic since I probably don't have much place doing so.
However, one thing strikes me as very poignant about this - at the very least, if nothing else, Cedric's lines in the movie have provoked a lot of conversation (proven by this thread). I would venture a guess that as a result of the movie, and those lines, there is at least one person in this world who before seeing "Barbershop" was ignorant of Rosa Parks, but is now quite familiar with her.
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The only thing to say about that is......
Man, (BLEEP) JESSE JACKSON!
I don't think anyone apologized to Jackson. I think they said that this is the way Eddie was written and that's that.
shareMartin Luther King cheated on his wife. By many standards that does make him a "ho." That doesn't change anything in terms of what he did for African Americans and for all Americans. "Eddie" is right on the money about Rosa Parks. She's not George Washinton or some great leader who calculated out a vision for a revolution. All she did was sit down because she was tired. She admits as much. Her place at the NAACP helped her gain the attention of the leadership there, which later led to a movement. She's more of a martyr than the conquering hero she's presented as. She's not a bad person or a villain. She's just not the Christ figure she's made out to be. Her name seems to find it's place among the true heroes of the civil rights movement like Booker T. Washington, Martin Luther King and Frederick Douglass.
Jesse Jackson is in a whole different category. The man is a race hustler and isn't really a respectable politician. Al Sharpton is even worse. Fortunaetely, Louis Farakhan, the worst of the three, has faded into relative obscurity. It is a tragedy that these men have risen to the forefront of African American politics. Still worse is the principle that their ideology is the only ideology that African Americans can believe in. To disagree with them is "offensive" enough to demand changes in the dialogue of movies. Thankfully, the makers didn't cave in to pressure and the material is still in the DVD release. Plenty of movies and TV shows have mocked George W. Bush and Bill Clinton and a myriad of other politicians. Yet for some reason, Jesse Jackson, in his infinitely self-rightous view of himself as sacred, thinks it's fair game to demand changes in a movie.
A lot of people cheat on their spouses
But MLK is overrated.
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