I felt sick most of the time, and maybe if you look at it from anuva angle u cud say that the editing and filmaking was good, but how can someone possibly like this , and also how can the persoon who wrote it think of something like this, they must be so *beep* up. Obviously the film makers just wanted to try and make the most notorious and controversial violence movie ever.
"Obviously the film makers just wanted to try and make the most notorious and controversial violence movie ever. "
You need to watch more asian films.
http://www.imdb.com/mymovies/list?l=30339146
Just as Catholics and Jews were over-represented in the creation of pornography starting circa 1970, so Asians filmmakers in the past decades have tended toward over-the-top violence much more than their Western counterparts. Catholics and Jews were brought up more sexually repressed leading to a taste for the forbidden. Asians live in much less crime/violence-ridden environments - the stats comparison of East versus West is amazin'!
shareJust as Catholics and Jews were over-represented in the creation of pornography starting circa 1970
Hahahaha, didn't know that part.
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Interesting, if true. Anyone care for any links or citations? I suspect the US pornography industry was defined by whichever groups happened to be living in large numbers in California at the time, where most of the porn there seems to be made. Not including the dodgy stuff some people shoot on their home cameras in their living room and try to pass off for a few bucks. Which I have read about. And nothing more.
When darkness overcomes the heart, Lil' Slugger appears...
Anyone care for any links or citations? I suspect the US pornography industry was defined by whichever groups happened to be living in large numbers in California at the time, where most of the porn there seems to be made.
Cali does have large Catholic and Jewish populations, as you say. I have no idea why so much porn is made there.
On the other hand, the more bizarre and illegal forms of porn are overwhelmingly from Germany and Japan.
Which is a head-scratcher. With the Japanese, you could perhaps point to the stereotypical image of them as a repressed people needing seriously release but all the Germans I've met have been laid-back individuals
Japan, Holland, and Germany are world's biggest producers of child porn and beast porn, and they're also among the nations with the highest average IQ in the world. And IQ measures creativity as well as intelligence. So I'm fairly sure that high creativity will often correlate with weirder sexual fetishes.
Leave it for the Americans to stick with boring vanilla stuff like straight sex.
Presumably in the Battle Royale-verse, the victorious Axis powers subjectated the rest of the world to their regime of bizarro porn, hence why it's such a dystopia
Meanwhile, America is the basketcase it is due to its vanilla porn industry being denied its cultural dominance.
I always had the impression that Nazi Germany was extremely puritan, ruled by the sexually inadequate Hitler who was big on "traditional values" and harsh against everything "degenerate", which surely included porn.
Well, the impression I got from BR was that America is the dominant culture, while the Greater East Asia Republic shuts out itself from the rest of the world.
Besides, I'm pretty sure that vanilla porn will always have a bigger market than bizarre snuff porn.
Well, Hitler apparently enjoyed pissing on his nubile young cousin
So, yeah, I'd say the Nazis were a pretty 'liberated' bunch underneath all that wholesome German values.
Sakomochi says something to Shogo at the end about how far American society has fallen. Admittedly, he may not be the most reliable of sources, being an evil government official and all.
Yeah, but it's still not the kind of society that would allow porn. I mean, the first things the Nazis did when they seized power was to outlaw homosexuality, close down the clubs in Berlin, and have book burnings.
don't know. If America has "fallen" so far, then the GEAR wouldn't need to constantly defend itself from American cultural imperialism.
The kids enjoying Bruce Springsteen (whose career was apparently unaffected by America's loss of WWII) wouldn't care about the state of the US, other than as a source of music, so it's hard to judge the state of the place from that alone.
Or America is as strong as ever and Sakomochi was just parroting the party line.
Well, I seriously doubt that America would be invaded if they lost WWII. Japan doesn't have enough manpower for that, and neither does Germany. Most likely, it would've ended in a sort of Cold War situation.
I've read an alternate-history book you might be interested in. I forgot its name, but I'll try to dig it up. The book is about the Confederacy winning the American Civil War and then going on to colonize South America. In WW2, the CSA joins the Axis while the US joins the Allies.
It ends with Nazi Germany, Japan and the CSA ruling most of the planet. That's depressing.
yeah.. jealous, huh? troll on, ya little bastard.
shareYeah. Ichi is definitely not for everyone. It is a quirky,hilarious,violent live action comic book. Period.
shareyeah you are right.. it is a comic book movie for overgrown, adult men who are on their period.
shareDunno about overgrown men, but it sure isn't for thumb-sucking half-wits with a case of bugs up the arse for sure.
shareYou are a dumb person.
I'm the grim reaper, lardass, and you're my next customer.
You ever notice those skinny, pale *beep* You know.. the ones who wear those gay hats (like Moby), skinny jeans and grow those potsmoker beards? Ask one of them why this movie is awesome and they will tell you. Make sure you have time on your hands (they certainly will), because you will be in for a long explanation.
At the end of the conversation, you will probably still have no idea why anyone likes this movie. Don't worry. The rest of the real people think it sucks and is just another cartoon for overgrown adults. Just smile, tell them that you always vote progressive and that Sweden rulzorz.
Then ya just go ahead and pop in Casablanca and pretend you never smelled those pathetic little bastardxs.
Sure. Too bad I've never seen Casablanca; unsure if I ever will. Also I think you mean children, do you not? Otherwise you were being rather redundant. But I just didn't find it all that funny, the funniest scene was probably that guy stuck in the taped-up television with needles sticking out of it. And that piece that sounded almost like someone quickly puffing air out or something (I had to do a double-take when I realized it was part of the soundtrack, I thought it was coming from Kakihara) that I think was in the same scene. Man even that poor guy's screams had me in stitches!
But at least I liked it better than the manga. Of all the manga I've read, only Riki-Oh hits a point Ichi can't reach (in one chapter). Plus Ichi makes this seriously ugly face whenever he gets PO'd, very likely the ugliest I've seen. I guess if you read that first you'd be able to laugh at the movie...
I like how one person mentioned Riki-Oh. It makes me wonder how many that post here on the Ichi board (and especially this topic) have seen that too, and what they'd have to say.
Maybe Shamo too, though that really isn't too violent at all from what I recall. (The manga was so brutal, in the prison even before Ryo learned the martial arts, of which a certain incident did not translate at all to the movie.)
"...Due to cruel circumstances that would not be allowed to happen quite that easily..."
they're not *beep* up" or mentally unstable, which i think is what you mean, they're just not very bright and think cartoonish ultra violence is cool/artistic. any one of intelligence will just laugh at how idiotic it looks and how seriously and without the irony the filmakers and manga novelist take to their work.
and if it was done as a straight comedy, like how lots of americans approach the subject of bad taste, it's not as idiotic, but it's also less funny because you know the filmakers aren't fools, because they acknowledge the stupidity of what they're doing.
"Cud" it be that you're a shallow minded idiot?
But, I guess that's "anuva" story.
I love this film but obviously i understand why some people dont. Also it's not his most insane film!
shareIchi the Killer is one of the best films of all time imo.
An alternative reality where schizophrenia meets sadomasochism in a gory, blackhumorous, disturbing, bizzare, comic-book *beep* manner.
The characters and their development are great. The plot is great as well. The acting and the directing are top notch.
You cant get any better than that. This is Miike's true masterpiece and makes other critically aclaimed asian films like Oldboy look like a joke.