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The sorting hat could not have been more wrong when he said that he made


mistake when he placed Harry into Gryffindor. He thought that Harry might fit well into Slytherin. The Slytherin scum were such users and connivers and liars. Harry was a gentle, thoughtful kid. I know about the Harry/Voldemort connection but it wasn't that strong. Harry had no business being around that kind of scum.



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He didn't say he made a mistake. He said Harry was "particularly difficult to place." But that he "would have done well in Slytherin." He did well in Gryffindor too, though.

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I believe the sorting hat is pointing to the fact that Harry is not just "a gentle, thoughtful kid." There is a lot more to him than that.

"You could be great, you know, and Slytherin will help you on the way to greatness, no doubt about that." —The Sorting Hat to Harry Potter
We do not know — and it is sort of improbable — that all of the people in Slytherin are like the ones that we see. It would probably be the best place for him if Harry turned out to be ambitious.
According to Albus Dumbledore, the qualities which Salazar valued in the students he chose included cleverness, resourcefulness, determination, and "a certain disregard for the rules." Dumbledore noted that all of these were qualities possessed by Harry Potter, who was in Gryffindor.http://harrypotter.wikia.com/wiki/Slytherin

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Yeah but he has the talent for getting into trouble like i believe Slytherin tend to do, and imagine what would have been like if Harry had been sorted into Slytherin, he would have to be the first to not have gone bad that was in the house.

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I always thought that the Slytherin a-holes were sociopathic and would have killed their classmates if they could have gotten away with it. They did not seem to have any human feeling at all. Draco was their perfect leader. He was soulless and hated everything good.

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That's not what Slytherin is about though. That's just an unfortunate stereotype of the house. Slytherin traits are mostly people who are ambitious and determined to succeed. You don't have to be cold-hearted and "evil" to be one. Horace Slughorn and Andromeda Tonks were both Slytherin's and they turned out to be nice, good people. Andromeda ended up falling in love with Ted Tonks who was a muggle-born wizard and married him.

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Sometimes I think the writers really screwed up. The sorting hat was way too biased to put Harry in Gryffindor. I mean think about how much control the other kids had, close to nothing. Then Harry is like "Not Slytherin" and somehow he gets his way. Something tell me he possessed the sorting hat to put him in the house he wanted.

Not only that, but even the writing on Dumbledore giving points, towards the end, was kind of favoritism. If Slytherin was leading in house points, how is that that Dumbledor gives just enough so Harry's house wins?

I get the 50 points to Gryffindor and then he's like 60 points for Harry. Usually points are taken away in increments of 10 and 5 and are giving 5, 10, and 50. How does he just so happen to give 60 points to Harry?

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This is an old post, but I'd like to comment anyway. Arvin-G-Borkar says the sorting hat was way too biased and says the other children had close to no control, but Harry says he doesn't want to be in Slytherin and the hat complies. The implication, for Arvin, is that only Harry's desires are taken into account by the hat.

However, we are not privy to the hat's interactions with the other students. There isn't any reason to suppose that man students are equivocal on their preferences or in the quality of their personalities. In those cases the hat, undoubtedly, "speaks" with the new student to place them where they will be happy and do best.

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