What's the deal with the rapists in this movie? They are never allowed to go outside of their cell? They don't have any right?
I just think it's hypocrite for these prisonners to think that raping someone is worse than murdering 3 people.
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As a rule, rapists tend to be among the most hated of prison inmates, right up there with pedophiles (obviously not mutually exclusive populations, either). The people who lived in the dark isolated rooms CHOSE to because they feared for their safety. It is not uncommon for people who have committed what other inmates consider heinous crimes to be hurt or killed by those fellow inmates. It's not "hypocrite" at all, but a choice.
hope that makes sense.
Unless you've done time in prison for raping or murdering, what the hell do YOU know Roger?
Besides, why are you sticking up for rapists?
Lol, don't be so hard on Roger, he was just curious. Obviously he is not familiar with prison protocol.
shareof a rapist who was in the normal population, trying to 'pass' as it were. He got caught out, and then not only beaten but gang raped, himself.
Then there was the guy in the infirmary who was a rapist and had been beaten (possibly within the infirmary, I don't recall), and the infirmary attendant was indifferent.
The movie itself takes the position that rapists were in danger.
"The movie itself takes the position that rapists were in danger."
Yet it still doesn't exactly sympathize or empathize with them and the film doesn't outright spell out how the audience should feel about this or if they should agree or disagree, it let's them draw their own conclusions. Correct?
The informa prisoner code of conduct in Brazil determines that raping is worse than murder. By the prisoners' logic, a rapist is someone who can attack your own family outside while you are in jail helpless to defend them. Killings for revenge or robbery are considered fair game.
You may consider it hypocrite, but it is the way the system works. In fact, I read interviews with captured rapists who were terrified of what would happen to him after the trial.
When I saw the film Con Air, I was shocked when one of the prisoners bragged about having raped 12 women. This would never happen in Brazil.
Well, Con Air isn't such a realistic portrayal of the US prison system, you know. I suppose it's the same everywhere, not just Brazil, rapists and pedophiles are regularly attacked in prisons. Those who've killed children too, I guess, I think that's it.
share"When I saw the film Con Air, I was shocked when one of the prisoners bragged about having raped 12 women. This would never happen in Brazil."
Aye, but even in that movie, the rapist is scolded by Cyrus for being the lowest of the low.
I consider rape worse than murder. Maybe it is how I was raised. I still don't understand why a thief in America gets more prison time than a rapist.
share"I consider rape worse than murder. Maybe it is how I was raised."
Are you saying you didn't exactly do research on either subject to come to that official conclusion but simply based it on your personal upbringing and the aura it brought and the official stance it created in your mind?
Not saying I think you're wrong. But keep in mind that murder, for one, especially of innocents who don't deserve it, completely robs someone of their entire life. No possibility of recovery afterwards.
And yes I agree that other matter overall is terrible and in many cases damaging for life and whatnot. But always worse than murder? What about say other sexual offenses however slight or less, and what if the perpetrator may not be say male (still wrong and terrible no doubt) but again, always worse than murder? Statutory rape?
And I agree with last part but then again, I often hear how this matter is often harder to prove than theft and the legal system overall is flawed and far from perfect. And many people ARE upset and extremely unsatisfied with it, the civilized folk among us of course.
No. Rapists have no rights whatsoever. It's the same thing in the prisons of my country and it's a good thing.
shareAlso, does the movie bring about this fact here on the order of "Yeah, those bastards deserve all the hell they get and full stop" or does it even somewhat say "As horrible as they are, do they still deserve it and is it proper justice?" or does it look at the issue with objective neutrality and allow audiences to come to their own conclusion?
Oh and yeah, should OTHER criminals like murderers also suffer similar fate? Its not like I want to be murdered either or have people close to me killed as well, and I would also hold a huge grudge here against the perpetrators.
Or do we really see that issue on the whole different level altogether and that's the right way and full stop?
2 maniuis - I wonder what that means. As if, in prison, they don't get fed, they don't have access to water and shelter or any medical treatment, and other criminals including violent ones and including even murderers, what, DO?
"No rights whatsoever" sounds something LITERALLY akin to death sentence. Prison or otherwise.
And no I am not "defending them" at all. Besides, if they're already locked up and in prison, why all the hassle and panic here STILL?