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Was the reason why Hank hated Sonny so much...


...was because deep down, Sonny was a lot like Hank and Hank hated himself?

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By Jove, I think you've got it. Seriously, a good analysis of the character. There is the thought that Sonny wasn't really his son (Hank claiming Sonny as such because if he didn't, he would have had to acknowledge that his wife had committed adultery), but I like your explanation better.

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<<By Jove, I think you've got it. Seriously, a good analysis of the character. There is the thought that Sonny wasn't really his son (Hank claiming Sonny as such because if he didn't, he would have had to acknowledge that his wife had committed adultery), but I like your explanation better.>>

I do, too. It's a far more sophisticated explanation. Also, there is nothing in the movie to indicate that Sonny (look at his name!) is not Hank's son. Nothing. If he weren't, Hank and Buck would have had him out long ago. No, when we view the decent man Sonny was and see the decent man Hank becomes, well, the connection becomes obvious. Hank hated Sonny having the bravery to be the emotional, good man Hank didn't have the courage to be. He tried to stomp it out of Sonny, as he stomped it out of himself. He couldn't do that and his efforts had a tragic result. The only way to atone was to become what Sonny was, what he tried to destroy, and what he truly was himself.

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They were alike much more so than Hank cared to admit, down to throwing up when under a lot of stress. So I agree that Hank hated his son because he exemplified the softer side of Hank he would rather people not know about.

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I believed he hated him because of the way he treated the black people in town and especially the black inmates. because from the way hanks father talked Hank was raised to be a racist and they wanted Sonny to feel the same way but he didn't. I think he resented that and maybe felt a embarrased. But that's just what I could comeup with.



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<<was because deep down, Sonny was a lot like Hank and Hank hated himself?>>

Good interpretation! I think you may be right. I think Sonny was the way Hank secretly wanted to be -- a man who felt emotions, who wasn't a racist. Hank feared this "good side" of himself and hated to see it represented in Sonny. I don't think Hank hated Sonny, either. I think, as you said, he was just afraid of how much like Sonny he truly was. It is said that children act out the unspoken fears or desires of their parents. Sonny was the man Hank wanted to be and was afraid to be (who can blame him, with Buck as a father). After Sonny's death, Hank realized he had to be who he truly was, that not being who he was had twisted him and destroyed his family. Hank had to stop hating himself, his true self, and had to learn to love himself -- and his true self was easy to love.

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Personally, I think Hank was compelled to be like his macho bigoted father, Buck. Sonny was sensitive and not a bigot and was seen as being weak like his mother. I seems that Buck's wife and Hank's wife were not prejudiced. Buck's wife was driven to suicide.
It's possible Hank's wife may have shared the same fate in this dysfunctional household since there were three graves in the back yard.

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Yes. Hank quit his job after Sonny committed suicide. A major turning point in his life.

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Hank didn't have any way to know about love. Buck, his dad, worked hard to make everyone hate him, and the absence of the two women in his life who may have been able to teach him about love, were dead early.

So it may be that Hank didn't hate Sonny so much as he didn't know how to show Sonny he loved him.

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Yes, despite all the proclamations of Sonny being like his mother, Sonny was really like his father. Hank's "bigotry" early on was really just a product of his own father. Notice how Hank doesn't care about the two black boys being on his property until Buck goads him into confronting them. Even in the confrontation with the boys' father, Hank's heart really isn't in it to tell them to stay off his property. Hank never had the courage to stand up to Buck, but when Sonny fought back against Hank before shooting himself it caused Hank to waken up to the fact that HE was the weak one who could never fight back against his own father. This is why he quit his job at the prison because that job was a product of him just following in his father's footsteps and not forging his own path.

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Well said, baheidstu.




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Agreed.

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Just wanted to add a spoiler caution to the subject line to warn anyone who has not seen the film but might be researching it.

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Hank would have had a very rough time letting his tender side develop, while remaining as a corrections officer, because a prison guard has to appear tough to the prisoners, and to the other correctional staff. As a father supervising his son at a prison, that made having a supportive role towards Sonny very difficult.

Sonny violated that unwritten rule for prison guards, embarrassing his father. Hank's roughing Sonny up in the bathroom, showed Hank honoring that empty code, which permanently severed any bond the 2 had. As a veteran officer, Hank told Sonny that showing such human feelings during an execution could effect the condemned person also. Hank's rejecting the trappings of power after Sonny's suicide, enabled him to try to move on.

The racist Buck didn't seem to have to "act" that way, but after many years of working in prison even people who have no mean-streak have difficulty maintaining appropriate human boundaries, having to show anger, while suppressing other emotions. The movie "Das Experiment" is based on Zimbardo's Stanford prison experiment, which showed that people will automatically adopt stereotypical prisoner/guard roles.

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You nailed it. You said a lot in so few words.

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I thought it was because Sonny was too much like his mother.

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