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{Theory]The reason why ' the good guy ' becomes 'bad guy'


Firstly I'm sorry for my English. I know it's terrible.
I watched this movie again last night, and i noticed at the end after the bad guy wounded the good guy he said: "Your power is not enough, the darkside has chosen me".it could mean that they were seeking the same power->they fight each other. Altho The good guy was a law enforcer in his past life, he was the kind of guy who would do anything to uphold the law, even becoming the devil himself. Prove:
1. He chopped the girl's head off
2. The is a scene that the bad guy said:"You use to be an aweful man of justice"
3. The bad guy also said that:"I never expect you to be serve a life term in prison".He was mocking at how fate have turned out for the good guy. 500 yrs ago, he was an law enforcer, now a serial killer

What do you guy think?

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Actually, having watched this film several times the "good" guy... considered the Prisoner, was a heartless killing machine whose only goal seemed to be the death of others. He was a killer... whether as a Samurai upholding the law or as a Prisoner in the modern times, he was a brutal slayer. The "Bad" guy... the wizard... continuously revived people from death, offering them a chance to work with him. Possibly even offering redemption. All he wanted to do was open a portal to another world... it was never stated whether he wanted to do something evil or something good. A man who waited lifetimes to perform the ritual that would bring two worlds together may seem "evil", but the whole film supports the theory that they never switched roles. The wizard was "good" and the Prisoner was "Evil", all from the very beginning. The "Good" may have even been trying to redeem the evil in the Prisoner by offering him a second chance.

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Well, here's my take: whoever wins the fight, since the fight always does happen in some way, becomes evil and immortal while the other one becomes good. The roles shift, but the loop continues. Like it has been said, "There is just a pro- and anta-tagonist", not "set-in-stone" roles.

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I don't think the main character ever was a "Good" guy. More to the point, the Villain never really did anything overtly evil. He was trying to open a portal to another world, to gain a sacred power, and he just spent the past several decades waiting for these two to be reincarnated for another chance. Yet, throughout the whole film, all he ever talks about is how terrible some people are and how he wants to give them another chance to do something.

Next time you watch the film, think about him as the Hero and alot of things make an odd sort of sense.

One of the things I love about this movie is how you can watch it over and over again and get something new each time.

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I don't think there are any good guys in this movie. I think that's one of the reasons I love it soooo much :)

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We know this isn't true now, but here's what I initially thought.

At some point in the movie, the "good guy" says: "These days, the world is full of people who are better off dead." That's not really something a criminal would say, but rather a lawman filled with despair.

Also notice at the end, the "good guy" says: "There's nothing left to destroy in this world."

The "bad guy" in the movie is definitely bad, even at the end I'm sure he still is. However, I think that the "good guy" lives by a justice code that is completely deranged. He is so filled with despair that he convinces himself that the world is going in the wrong direction and every human is to blame. Even his sidekicks in the end look brainwashed, as if he wanted to enforce his way of thinking on other people. He probably caused the apocalypse that we see at the end.

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Quite simple really.
The "Good guy" was never really "Good", you do not get a sentence he got for being handsome.
He might have been an upstanding, law enforcing individual 500 yrs ago, but his present incarnation is another person all together.
His experiences in his present life molded him into a different person than before - a murderer, by the time he regains memories of his past life, he's like, "pffttt whatevss"
Sure, the movie is shot from his perspective and that alone presents him as the goodguy. The way his flashbacks are presented and the limited timeframe of the movie reinforces that.
We never got to see him before entering the forest, we only get hints that he may not be as nice as we're led to believe - and it's the same with the characters, no one got to know him well enough to realize how *beep* he is.

The "villain" wanted to open the portal because he was powerhungry and wanted more power, but the "good guy" was actually a *beep* insane sociopath, who when presented with the power went on an apocalyptic rampage.

So in the end the "villain" goes out to clean his own mess by confronting the "good guy", he wanted power, perhaps he wanted to rule the world or something - destroying it runs counterproductive to that...
That's why the girl expresses remorse at the end - giving the "good guy" the power was a BAD idea. Whatever the "villain" wanted to do with the power was a better off with the world.

TL;DR. ver.

The "hero" was a far worse monster than the "villain" all along in this incarnation, we just never got to see that side of him properly before the ending.

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yin yang/zoroastrianism-ish cycle. good vs bad, players reverse, repeat.

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