Any body, including Schizophrenics themselves!!!!!, can answer this question. Do you think this film is accurate in portraying Paranoid Schizophrenia? in terms of the delusions, the representation of the hallucinations, etc..
shareGreat question, and there's a specific aspect of this question i'm particularly curious about {and would like input from people with Schizophrenia, or friends or doctors of such}.
Would Nash's solution normally work the way it did? If a person learned to ignore the hallucinations, would they remain, but become passive, as the movie showed?
An old man dies. A young girl lives. A fair trade. I love you, Nancy.
They don't go away if you ignore them. In fact schizophrenics have a hard time controlling what they pay attention to. At least that was the case with me. I tried to ignore them, but the hallucinations would somehow make me concentrate on them.
You are missing what actually "cured" Nash in the movie. I wasn't that he ignored the delusions. It was that he realized they weren't real. It's not your fault you missed that. I only know because I went through what Nash did.
The single most important point in a schizphrenics life is when they realize they are sick.
At that point alot of the stress caused by the delusions, voices, hallucinations just goes away because you don't have to worry about them.
I hope that answers your question.
Thanks, i think i understand. :=}
I think that, if i were in Nash's shoes - hard as it would be to accept that these things aren't real, i would probably find it even harder {impossible, really}, to stop interacting with them. This movie, to me, is almost like a heroic fantasy movie, because the willpower he demonstrated by maintaining, as he called it, his "diet", strikes me as almost superhuman.
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An old man dies. A young girl lives. A fair trade. I love you, Nancy.
In the film he mentions that he "takes the newer medications," which is presumably helping him maintain his "diet." Easy to overlook, I suppose. Unmedicated schizophrenia is often progressively degenerative, and as such most people would not be able to maintain mental control over their delusions and hallucinations indefinitely.
Personally I found the depiction of his medicated state brilliant. He isn't cured, he likely won't ever be "cured." But he has found a happy, livable balance between drugs (and their side effects) and lifestyle.
I have a new found respect for people who have schizo and live their life to the fullest right now.
shareI have a friend who has schizophrenia. He says he sees corpses that attack him. Unfortunately his visions are quite horrible and then he ends up drinking to try and help it go away which doesn't help. He said he loves this movie since he could relate to it so well. He also sees green lines around stuff and attaches mathematical signficance to things.
shareRing, that was something the screenwriter added in. The real John Nash stopped taking his drugs decades ago and didn't start back up.
shareThis could be because he never suffered from schizophrenia in the first place. Maybe he was falsely accused of having this disease so that they could put him away and prevent him from developing his economical theories because they were afraid they would strengthen communism.
shareHi there!
Interesting theory. Makes me wonder how you arrived at such? Possibly, just maybe, you are one of the lucky few that has a front row seat of watching the life of a man being tormented and made to think and act out things that are against his will for the viewing pleasure of voyeuristic individuals (possibly yourself)?
I say that because the only posts you've ever made was on this very forum, AFTER seeing the "tormented man" visit this very board yesterday (Seeming as though his web site visits are closely monitored, and viewers are encouraged to follow him like a ravaged fanboy and drop hypnotic keywords in there prose to let the "Tormented man" know he's being watched, 24/7/365, all the way live -- until he's dead. And even then, I think that the fanboys of this "tormented man" are so fanatic about his boring life that they would probably kill themselves to be where he is -- either heaven or hell -- to continue their "Game." Sick, yes. But that's how I see it. And it's a sad state of humanity in which we let *beep* like this happen. No one has balls to help him. People talk loud, but don't do *beep*
Hint: My IMDB name should be a clue. ;-)
Bye!
P.S. You and other people reading this message know what I'm talking about, so please spare the "I think you're a schizo that needs help" nonsense. Thanks.
Everything is perfectly fine until it backfires or happenes to you. Then blame the person who wasn`t to blame. Chaos the greatest control there is!
sharedear ring-2,i read recently(within the last few years) studies which suggest that unmedicated schizophrenics in'3rd world' countries had about the same or better recuperative rates than medicated people in 'industialized countries'these studies have actually prompted quite a bit of controversy.
shareHis performance was great but no its not Accurate at ALL. If his illness where THAT bad where he could have full conversations with people who appeared to be there he wouldn't be able to get out of bed. He'd be in on the subway talking to a paper bag. Most people with this illness may hear a voice or see someone who they think they know but they don't have conversations with them.
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I believe so. I know a friend who saw aliens but also said that radios were communicating with him via hidden messages. So I think it's both auditory and hallucinations.
*"When life gives you lemons, just say f the lemons and bail."*
Not schizophrenic but have had delusions and hallucinations and I'd say that what you think you see is as real as any other real life and this ride can go on for years unless brought under control. Only after some recovery can you look back and say, "I was seeing things that weren't there". Thank goodness meds are better these days.
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I have the book and the real Nash suffered from only auditory hallucinations not visual ones as others have said although, as is said above, schizophrenics CAN have visual hallucinations.
Also, the real Nash has said, at least as of when the book came out (1998) that it is true that he still hears the voices in his head but that they've become less intense over the years because he's been ignoring them, and their being more passive has in turn made them easier to ignore.
So yes the movie is accurate in depicting Nash as engaging in a "diet of the mind [and] choos[ing] not to indulge certain appetites."
I'm not sure if a schizophrenic would be able to answer to your post... he would probably mistake the pc for a giant talking lizard.
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