The most underrated movie of all time...bar none

It is the movie to ask the immortal question, "Has my masturbation ritual become far too complex?"

First he has to capture the women, then drown the women, then bleach the flesh (with bleach -- which actually does not work as the movie displays) to a clown white, then run a rope through the curtain ring piercings on his back, and then hand-pully himself up over the clown-white corpse of his victim and then finally after all that he wanks his meat into ejaculation.

Holy cow, don't the numbed up women in video porn look dead-eyed and bored enough for this man? All he has to do is turn up the contrast to the max in the videos and you've got your "Clown Porn" fetish solution achievement unlocked.

All the rest of the movie is the director & costuming & special effects crews having a big old wank-fest about how much of the budget they can piddle away.

But seriously guys, if you're using more than 3 sex toys, diapers, gas masks, and electo-stimulation all at once, you're really creating more problems than you're solving. Simplify your routine or go cold turkey (no not actual frozen turkeys), put off the self-pleasuring for a month or so until your cravings start to revert to something of a level that does not require the assistance of a hoist loader to achieve a result.

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yeah this movies beast

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of course it is if it's on USA; edited to hell.

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Most underrated film of all time.Silence of the lambs in sci-fi and mind boggling visuals...

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"you'll know the visuals are all stolen"

Again someone else with the "stolen" crap. If you would pay attention to other movies like you did this one you would realize that "stolen" is a word best left in the dictionary when it comes to movies or music videos.

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I realize this is delayed - but I just ran across it ... in response to R.E.M. "Losing My Religion," did you just accuse Tarsem Singh of stealing from himself? That's remarkable. He really should let himself know.

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I'm sorry that you seemed to have missed the whole point of the "dream" world then. The whole point was that the whole thing took place in his head. Naturally his visuals would come from outside influences, art, music videos, etc. The whole part where Vince Vaughn's intenstines are pulled out via the barbed pole is referenced later in the movie when Vince Vaughn finds a reproduction of classical art depicting the same scene.

This is one of those movies where you have to keep an open mind. AND you have to watch closely, instead of hopping on your elitist horse.

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"the visuals are all stolen"

This makes perfect sense within the context of the film. The killer's mind is filled with images he's seen through out his life. Many of his internalized images come from popular or classical sources -- we are given one such example with the intestine torture device. The killer had a painting of such a device in his house.

Thus, it is quite logical that most of the images are not original to this story.

EDIT: someone else has already made this point. I apologize for the rehash.

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in response to teethgrrrinder...i totally agree with you about how the visuals are "stolen"
but the director meant to do that...
i think it was a great idea to use art for many of the visuals, it connects more with the audience

but you have got to admit how insane this movie is truly disturbing and wonderful in every way possible

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> this is the most derivative movie of all time. most admit the only thing going for it is it's striking visuals. and yep, they are striking but not original.

Exactly. Oh, and all the plots are derivative and predictable, too, and there is no characterization whatsoever.

But, hey, it's for lovers of horror films who are unaware of the visual styles of the rest of the world, so they think it's genius. Personally, I have no use for horror films. I've seen enough horror in the world.

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this is the most derivative movie of all time. most admit the only thing going for it is it's striking visuals. and yep, they are striking but not original.

if you watch any music videos or pay attention witness any art (classic and modern), you'll know the visuals are all stolen. the horse dissection. the bathtub scene is a reworking of his own video for rem's 'losing my religion'. the spinning cubes with faces from madonna's 'bedtime stories'... it goes on

Because no movie, besides this, have ever borrowed from other films or other mediums.

C'mon man.

How can you consider the visuals stolen when they were done by him from an earlier project. Great logic there buddy.

Movie is awesome.

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I heard this movie was lame, but I rented it nonetheless just to prepare myself for "The Fall". AND HOLY *beep* AM I EXCITED. I swear to God the only reason this movie get's *beep* is because J-Lo was in it. BUT SHE WAS GOOD! That was the wierd part and so was everyone else. It was so twisted but beautiful and shocking and disturbing and.....I could go on! I am very pleased and it's a pity it didn't get more recognition.

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This film has amazing cinematography, just incredible. Very disturbing film, I love Vincent D'onfrio, he is extremely underrated

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