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Spoiling The World Series


I don't get why John was spoiling the World Series for Frank. He should have let his dad experience it. I know it provided a major plot device proving Frank's innocence to Satch but I would never spoil anything like that.

When you steal from Peter and give to Paul, you will always have the support of Paul.

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It was his chance to share it with his father as he had never gotten the chance to do that in the past. He knew he might not get the chance to talk to him about it again.




He's taking the knife out of the Cheese!
Do you think he wants some cheese?


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As it turned out, he had to do it in the first place to prove he was really from the future.

When the World Series game unfolded exactly the way John said it would, down to bizarro-world freak plays like a guy getting hit in the shoe with a pitch, it convinced Frank that John was for real.

Then of course the same thing later convinced Satch that Frank wasn't nuts.

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Plus Frank DID ask who wins it.

Gene(points at his arm pit:Get a waft of that,man stink. See if that doesn't moisten your gusset!

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Frank really should have put some money on that :P

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yeah. but he was probably too busy trying to avoid getting killed by a homicidal mass murderer. That tends to take your mind off baseball.

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I was at the game. Wow, was it cold, and that was a day game on Oct. 16th. What's it going to be like tomorrow, a night game on Nov 1st? Cleon Jones tried to skip out of the way of a pitch in the dirt. The ball rolled into the Met dugout. The umpire said it didn't hit Cleon. Manager Gil Hodges came walking slowly up to the plate examining and turning over a baseball. He showed it to the ump particularly pointing out the black shoe polish stain on the ball. The ump told Cleon to take first base. Oriole manager Earl Weaver flew out to the plate as if he had been shot from a Roman candle. Next day, the eminent sports writer, Red Smith, recalled that the same thing had happened in the 1957 World Series when Nipsy Russell got on first courtesy of the shoe polish stain. Red suggested that, ever since 1957, every smart manager kept a can of shoe polish in the dugout. One never know, do one?

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It was Nippy Jones, not Nipsey Russell - an understandable mistake given the similar names. Red Smith might not have been far off because many people claim some chicanery on the Mets part (and I say that as a diehard Mets fan). Jerry Koosman told a story that Hodges told him to rub the balls on his spikes. Ron Swoboda said that the ball that "hit" Cleon bounced near a ball bag in the Mets dugout and Hodges grabbed a ball that had a scuff on it.

The whole episode is just part of the "Miracle Mets" that saw a light hitting Al Weis flex his muscles.

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My mistake 47 years later about Nipsey vs. Nippy. I'm sure Red had it right the next day. Talking about Met "magic", they were lucky Weaver had been thrown out of the fourth game before J.C. Martin ran out his bunt on the infield grass.

(For the benefit of the 99% of you who probably don't get my reference: a batter running to first is supposed to run in foul territory so he can't interfere with a throw. Martin was running way over the line in fair territory, and the throw from catcher to first hit him in the left arm. As soon as he was hit, I said "uh oh, interference". I was very happy there was no call, but it was so blatant, I suspected MLB and the TV network thought a Mets' win would be better for ratings.)

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Well I guess what you would do and what someone else would do is entirely two completely different things. Sure, he spoiled it for frank but frank doesn’t care. As it’s been said, he even asked about it in the first place.

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It depends on the person.

Some want to know and some don't.

I've got a friend who has a favorite NFL team. If he can't see a game....he'll record it and avoid all forms of finding out the result and he'll sit through all 3 hours of the game not knowing what happened.

If the team I root for had a game 6 hours earlier and it is over and I've got it recorded.....I want to know the score....I want to know what happened. Oh, they lost 37-20. Ok, delete....I have no reason to watch it....I know it ends bad.

Oh, they won 41-10. Yeah, now let me sit back and enjoy this recording watching how it all unfolded.

I mean some wouldn't want to know but some would.

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