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:: ORIGINAL vs REMAKE ::


I saw the remake a couple of times but I never saw this one, the original one. Is it better than the remake or is it not worth renting?


'I said I'm not gonna hurt ya. I'm just gonna bash your brains in!' - The Shining

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The Japanese original will always beat the rehashed American version hands down
I seen it once and I immediately wanted it on DVD

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I like the remake better. I haven't seen the original yet, but plan on viewing it soon

That doesn't make any sense! How can you prefer the remake when you haven't even seen the original???

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I like the remake better. I haven't seen the original yet, but plan on viewing it soon

That is quite possibly one of the stupidest things I've ever read. Congratulations, moron.

Anyway, back on point, Ringu is far, far, FAR superior to the tepid The Ring.

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To start off I do find the orginal better. And I did watch the japanese version first.

Trying to watch the remake without no referance or critising to the jap is truly hard. When first watching the jap version, what scared me the most was my own imagination. What I say to people about the jap version is that there is only thing to be scared of ..... the ending (You know what I'm taking about). Everything else before that is the build up of creepiness and a thought of "is this next part gonna be scary". All that build up of creepiness and parinoia soon was let out right at the end of the film. This style of scare is also used in Dark Water which the American remake failed as well in potraying.

What the remake fails is where it tries to hold on to that built up scare. It lets you scream it out a few times in the film which makes the last scare not as frighting. The last scare is suppose to catch us by surprise (Oh we went to well, we are no longer gonna die, everything is all right). But they messed it all up with kids speach about how it was wrong to set her free.

The quality of the remake was good but suffers from the standard American problems.
The use of the creepy kid was not needed and is a cliche. The general obsession with the film makers trying to hand the whole story to the viewers on a plate. Trying to scare us with graphic images (The victims faces).

What i didn't like about the remake. The horses.....enough said. The fact the girl speaks and trys to be creepy. The creepy boy that seems to know all and draw pictures as way to scare you. The exicution of the last scare.

To be honest the remake is good. But it totally changed the whole feeling and pace of the film. The remake tries give out more shock scares while the jap version gives out a slow pace of creepiness. In the end it depends on what type of horror film you like. Do like the shocks and jumps of horrible images and death? Or do you prefer slow atmospheic creepiness which sends chills down your spine?

I will end this with a talk about remakes. I dont like them.
There are only a few real reasons for somebody to remake a film.
*If the orginal is a really old film and at this present time you have something to offer it (King Kong-CGI)
*If the orginal wasn't that good to begin with and you are remaking it to give its full potential.

I really dont like these remakes of asian films especially since the orginals are not that old and the fact that they are great films already. Setting it in English and throwing more money at it does not justify a reason for a remake. The fact that a great film like Infernal Affairs with a great budget and actors was remade into The Departed (which was a great film) and won all those awards and praise is just an insult. Just think of how people would feel if a great film like the Godfather or Star Wars was remade and won more awards and critical phrase than the orginal.

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lion_rafale...
you just said everything that i wanted to say but couldn't express... even about the whole internal affairs business... thank you


and i really wouldn't have had such a problem with the remake only if they would have cut out that stupid cgi effect of when samara comes out the tv and then teleports... that ruined the movie for me. I was like wtf??? she can teleport? why did she bother crawling out of the well if she could just teleport???

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Im American and I saw The Ring before Ringu, and there are pluses from both ends. I think the American version had a creepier tape, Samara was creepier than Sadako, Ryuji's death lacked the impact of Noah's, and I didnt care for the ESP background story in Ringu.. however..

I think Ringu's a better film and a better horror movie. The cast does a better job in Ringu, the cinematography is better, its much less "Hollywood"ized, and its overall more frightening. Watching Ringu left me feeling like I had watched an experience instead of just a movie.

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I much prefer the japanese versions to the american remakes. Generally, i don't care much for american remakes of great international films. But in the case of The Ring (just that one, not sequels) i felt they tried to keep it pretty similar. They even kept in some of the more atmospheric shots, ie, father and son standing in rain facing each other. I got the feeling that, unlike most remakes, they were TRYING not to mess with the story too much. I may be wrong, but that's just how it came across to me.

I hate when remakes mess with the story for the sake of trying to make it seem original somehow. If you're going to remake, remake. DON'T rewrite.

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The American version is superior, anyone who disagrees is either a japanophile or wants to appear cool and hip for watching foreign movies.

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Nice one. You're a real champion.

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Thanks ace but I already knew that.

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Both the Japanese and the remake are foreign films to me. The Japanese version is better, by the way.

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and its the same for me..

I am NOT an american, but I watch alot of american films. I like them, but Im also getting tired of movies being so alike.
I love Ringu, and think it is stupid, as someone mentioned before, to make a remake of a film that is not old and which is great in the beginning.

the goal of this remake seems to be Money, and to keep the audiences americanized. this may sound anti-american, but that is not the meaning. I think it is great to see more international movies, not only american or british.

ringu is the best horror movie I have seen, and still after having seen it maybe 10 times i have to look away when she is in the well. Its like I feel her hands trying to grab me.

japan makes excellent horror movies, but I must say: I thought the american remake of the grudge was scarier than the original, so there are exceptions.



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here we go.. all those defending the original Ringu are Japanese. all those defending the remake are American.

It's more like a question of patriottism instead of judging the actual movies.

I personally liked the remake better because the story goes a lot more into detail about what's really going on. There's also better acting and it got rid of the boring and useless scenes from the original.

the ONLY scene I liked better in the original was the scene at the end where Samara (don't remember japanese name) did those fast bonebreaking moves through that corridor.

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Most Hollywood re-makes are basically just the exact same film as the original, but over-simplified and over-glamorised for the benefit of their 15-20 year old demographic. The original isn't a great horror film, but it IS vastly superior as both a mystery and a thriller, in the respect that it presents the viewer with a series of questions and then supplies the answers in a way that allows the audience to think for them selves.

With the Hollywood version, everything becomes bigger. Bigger scares, bigger shocks and bigger plot points; but it's all entirely disposable! As others have said; there's simply no depth to it. So it's all gloss with nothing beneath the surface.

The fundamental problem with all mainstream American horror cinema is that it attempts to explain the unexplainable, completely missing the point that the reason things are seen as scary or disturbing is because we don't understand the "why" and "how" of the situation. The more we know, the less frightening it becomes. This is the reason why the remake of The Texas Chain Saw Massacre was so unmoving when compared to the original, why Hannibal Rising will never be as scary as The Silence of the Lambs, and why the eventual Halloween re-make will be an undoubted, unmitigated failure.

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"Most Hollywood re-makes are basically just the exact same film as the original, but over-simplified and over-glamorised for the benefit of their 15-20 year old demographic. The original isn't a great horror film, but it IS vastly superior as both a mystery and a thriller, in the respect that it presents the viewer with a series of questions and then supplies the answers in a way that allows the audience to think for them selves.

With the Hollywood version, everything becomes bigger. Bigger scares, bigger shocks and bigger plot points; but it's all entirely disposable! As others have said; there's simply no depth to it. So it's all gloss with nothing beneath the surface.

The fundamental problem with all mainstream American horror cinema is that it attempts to explain the unexplainable, completely missing the point that the reason things are seen as scary or disturbing is because we don't understand the "why" and "how" of the situation. The more we know, the less frightening it becomes. This is the reason why the remake of The Texas Chain Saw Massacre was so unmoving when compared to the original, why Hannibal Rising will never be as scary as The Silence of the Lambs, and why the eventual Halloween re-make will be an undoubted, unmitigated failure."
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Couldn't agree more. This is partly because I dislike remakes generally, but maybe most because I like being kept in the dark. Don't explain everything to me! I have a brain and I like to use it, even if I'm watching a film. Now, generally remakes are bad copies, no matter who makes them. However, I do feel that The Ring kept much of the general theme of the original even if it became too polished and too explained.

It's odd however that the first good and non-conformity horror film coming from Hollywood in years had to be a remake of a Japanese film. Maybe it says something about the general lack of ideas in Hollywood?

Ringu was better, but The Ring was by no means bad.


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I'm with you guys on this. The remake's cheap scares made me jump but after I'd finished watching the movie they didn't stick in my mind. The original felt more like it could happen and when I'd finished watching the film for the first time I removed my TV from my room for a week. It gave me the feeling that I'd actually seen the cursed video, the remake was too over-the-top.

Also to those questioning the acting abilities of the Japanese cast, it's important to understand just how reserved Japanese culture is. In some areas it's still frowned upon to hold hands in puplic, let alone actively display emotion and grief is not considered natural, or a virtue.

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If Japanese culture is so reserved why do Japs come up with tentacle porn, rampant school girl fetishes, demon arse rapists and chronic groping among many many other weird things?? I'm just joking of course but still, it's confusing ain't it...

Anywhoo there both solid, good films with alot of differences (and similarities as well). However the acting in this film was sub-par especially from the female lead, though I thought Hiroyuki Sanada was awesome (as usual), when compared to the US version's female lead (Naomi Watts was excellente).
Also I think the remake also had undeniably superior Cinematography, effects, film score and sound effects, which made it much more suspenseful, frightening and creepy (which comes from the higher budget I guess).
I saw the US remake before this one (which I just saw last night).
And I agree with a previous poster, the original is not a good horror movie but it has other strengths.

And I believe there's a Korean remake also, how good was that film in comparison to the original and US remake...

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I hate the remake, simply because they changed the whole meaning of the story.

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I prefer the remake, but the original has a few better scenes (including the opening scene of the tv coming on in the dark room, the video actually looks like a grainy vhs tape/broadcast, and I didn't like the Samara makeup, to name a few things) and an equally excellent soundtrack. I actually prefer the Australian dvd of the original as it has a blue hue to the movie that adds to the haunting feel of the film. When I bought the R1 hd transfer the film lost some of its' power.

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