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Anybody Else Notice it was daylight at midnight?



Anybody Else Notice it was daylight at midnight?

The reason for this?

I guess its easier to shoot in the day.

Maybe?

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I think that it's obvious that the light increases as the film goes on towards midnight. I would definitely not say that this is because they started shooting in mornings and stopped around noon. This would be ridiculous to think. The brightness they achieved was not natural light. Anyone who has been outside could attest to this, and I hope most of you reading this have been outside since leaving the womb. So with this obvious fact in mind, which is just a rebuttal to the "easier to film in the day" concept, I would like to posit that it was not the sun going super nova, but a meteor getting closer and closer to the earth. Anyone who has seen live action, or a cartoon representation of a meteor getting closer to the earth, knows that it turns into a giant fireball once it hits our atmosphere. This is just what I felt in the back of my mind as the end came nigh. It could have been the sun going supernova, but if we are really trying to figure out what McKellar was thinking, it would be best to go for the most obvious answer. I mean, our sun isn’t due to go supernova for a few billion years. And no, this message board isn’t here to correct my shotty scientific estimates.

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Everyone is so hung up on why and how the earth is ending. It is NOT important why or how but that it IS ending. It is a metaphor for any death. The story is basically what would you do if you knew you only had 6 hours left to live. The vehicle for delivering the death was the earth ending but it could have been anything else, too.

While the film may be low budget I don't think the writer chose to neglect the reasons why the earth was ending just to save money. This may be the most brillant "disaster" film ever created in that the "disaster" is probably the smallest part of the movie. The fact that we care about the characters more than the impending doom is testament to that fact.

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McKellar was very wise to not even to attempt to explain why the world is ending; because almost any attempt would be easily picked apart, and distract from the true subject of the film. Ultimately, it's a completely improbable scenario; a "what-if" story, that explores how people might really act, if they were living like there were no tomorrow. I know that *I* would prefer to either party with my friends, or be in bed with some nice woman.

On the subject of novas, and planets, and meteors: at 12AM Eastern standard time, Toronto is on the meridian pointed directly away from the sun; the sun would be behind the Earth, bright or not. Planets "exploding" wouldn't be likely to affect the Earth's orbit directly at all. And a meteor that has entered the atmosphere would impact within seconds; not linger brightly in the sky for days/weeks. Again, this just shows that the nature of the disaster is irrelevant, and speculating about it misses the point: it's the human story that's important.

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I'd just assumed that the pretense was that the Earth was falling into the sun, especially with the comment about remembering 'when it used to get dark'. Sure, it's never explained and I liked that, but it was easy for me to envision some sort of event destabilizing Earth's orbit and sending it towards the sun. It also explains why everyone in the film is covered with a thin sheen of sweat.

Hey, that's just my take though. It doesn't detract or add anything to the film for my knowing or wondering. Cheers.

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sankaman50 writes

>>The story is basically what would you do if you knew you only had 6 hours left to live.>>

I think I would add a further point: it isn't just what YOU would do with YOUR last six hours. Under "normal" cincumstances someone about to die can USE his remaining time to create some lasting impact on the world (or not) before he leaves it. (See "DOA" where the guy discovers he's been poisoned and spends his last two days trying to nail his killer.)

Since the world is ending, that take's away the temptation to leave a legacy. Nothing you do at this point actually matters except in the here and now. So the characters actually can/must confront the true question of how they want to use the last night.

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lol seriously people, is this a big question? Why is it light outside at night? And on top of that, we're supposed to figure out on our own how the world ends? How exactly are we supposed to figure out why the world ends when that reason is complete nonsense? How about this for a brain buster....WHY IS THE WORLD ENDING AT EXACTLY 12:00 AM EASTERN TIME! What catastrophic events can happen at precisely 12 am, or whatever the time might be an any given part of the world. It's obviously not a natural disaster; the only natural disaster that can wipe out the whole planet is a meteor. The probability of a meteor hitting earth times the probability of that meteor hitting earth at exactly 12:00:00 eastern time is...well, let's just say I have a better chance of walking through a wall (the probability of which I believe is a bit less then once in the existence of the universe). There is nothing that we could have done that would cause such an instant worldwide catastrophy either. So seriously, there's no Armageddon, it's impossible. So if no Armageddon and in fact no ending, what exactly are we suppose to focus on, the miserable lives of the few people, most of which didn't have the guts to do what they wanted on their last day on earth and those that did, decided to do so in the last 2 seconds or so. Blah, gave this movie a 5 for the pure silliness of it all. But honestly, it might have started out as a good idea, but somewhere between the original idea and the production, the ball was dropped.

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Exactly. I made a thread about this myself.

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I'll try to be succinct, because I don't have much time <grin>. At midnight in the film, the sun is almost directly over Toronto, and at christmastime!(look at the shadows on the ground). The sun, in winter, should not be so high in the sky for a city so far north. It's obvious some drastic geological change occurred that spells doom for earthlings, like a child's top that spins one way for so long, then suddenly turns upside down. Just try to keep in mind that doomsday's cause is not explained fully. Any explanation would surely not please you Star Trek fans who need to argue with eachother, and would detract somewhat from the je ne sais crois that attracts me to this film. Honestly, to the characters, and by extension to the audience, it doesn't matter what causes it; the film works perfectly the way it is.


And please stop bashing American films. It's unreasonable to go to a Ford dealer to buy a Porsche or go to McDonalds to eat filet mignon. When you want films with meaning and grand social significance, go to Canada. When you want to see big ginormous explosions and Bruce Willis flying a titanium space shuttle, go to Hollywood. Oh wait, one more. If you want to see films that pretend to have great significance and plot, but really just confuse you (but you're too chicken to admit you don't get it, for fear of becoming an object of ridicule among trendsetters), then go to France.

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I think the obvious answer is, if we know exactly when the world is going to end... we might as well synchronize our clocks to it.

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I agree with this theory. Standard time has been abandoned.

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As an amateur astonomer who happens to have a keen interest in meteors and other types of near earth orbiting objects I can tell you all most certainly that object which is responsible for the destruction of all mankind in this movie is a comet.

It is a well know fact in scientific circles that in the days leading up to an impact by a comet, {especialy one that is large enough to cause a mass extinction) the night sky would most certainly become brighter and brighter as the comet made it's final aproach. It most definetley would turn night into day.

Also, the sudden end, which the movie depicted as a flash of seering white light, also is what one might expect if a large comet were to crash into the surface of our planet.

The fact that the time of the demise of planet earth is known also points to an impact with an object from space such as a comet. The arrival date and time of said comet would definetley be predictable.

Any theory which includes the sun is false becuause night time would still occur as the planet completes its 24 hour cycle and in the movie there obviously was no night time period. Also, any predictable earthly disaster concerning the sun would most likely be a slow but steady heating of the planet which would result in humankind dying a more slow and less sudden death than depicted in the movie. Most likely death would occur due to excessive heat and lack of fresh drinking water as the planet slowly dried up.

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I thought they handled this by mentioning something about the fact that the sun was getting closer and that's why there was no night anymore...but maybe I'm wrong..it's been a while since I saw it.

I thought it was an excellent movie, a really nice surprise to find on "IFC" one night.

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I just had this weird thought. Mayhaps scientists (or maybe Scientologists...) were able to calculate when the world was going to end, and that time was dubbed 'midnight' on a certain day. You know, with the world ending, maybe people could finally agree on something. So with no difference between night and day, making a universal time would make sense. This is my way of accounting for the seeming ethnocentrism of the world ending midnight Toronto time. Though the real reason is probably because it was written and directed here. . .

Gotta run -- Curb Your Enthusiasm's on.

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i like this point. however, after reading about half of the posts, i needed to just skip to the end and explain. at the end of the movie it gets brighter and brighter until the whole screen is engulfed in a brilliant white light. the sun has become a supernova, and is expanding before collapsing in on itself. yes, this isn't expected to happen for billions of years, but who's to say that the scientists are right? plus, there is no date given for when the movie is taking place. i would guess that based on the size of the sun and when it blew up, the scientists were able to figure out when earth would be engulfed in the explosion. either it was a coincidence that it happened at midnight, or possibly the end of the world was dubbed as "midnight", since lightwise there was no way to differentiate between night and day.

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I doubt it. The line "I miss when it used to get dark out at night" kind of disproves this. It implies that there hasn't been a night for a while.

"Is this a joke? Because if it is, it's both funny and well-executed."

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There are more information.

We learned that EVERYBODY became infertile (when Sandra said she carried her husband's embryo or something). Presumably, this is due to the environmental change.

Also, two years ago, after a massive wave of illness killing people, including Pat's wife, the public were told the world will end. The illness is likely a result of the changing sun as well.

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Actually, the line is "None of us can have children." Which is not the same as saying everyone is infertile. Instead, no one will be able to have a child if it was conceived (approximatly) less than 9 months before the end of the world. Quite simply, Sandra cannot have a child because she will die before it's birth.

Also, I find no reference to massive waves of illnesses in the movie. Patrick asks Sandra "Do you remember when people just got sick and died, one at a time?" The paintings in the kitchen seem to indicate that his wife had a protracted illness, from which there was at least a chance of survival (you don't give "Get well soon" cards to terminal patients...)

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The thing about the "massive wave", this isn't right. Patrick was implying that it was ironic how his wife died, and then later he found out the world was going to end. "Remember when people died one at a time." It was implying the irony of the situation.

"Is this a joke? Because if it is, it's both funny and well-executed."

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Hmm. I always thought it was a nod to one of the better Twilight Zone episodes' "The Midnight Sun". Basically it's the telling of the last couple days of two women while the earth heads closer and closer to the sun.

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Also, not cold on Cristmas in Toronto?

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It wasn't really Christmas. Also, if a comit is about to hit the earth, I would imagine it'd give off a great amount of heat. So even if it was Winter, a comit, or something to do with the sun (or anything having to do with heat, which was implied), it would balance it.

"Is this a joke? Because if it is, it's both funny and well-executed."

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I thought that a comet was about to hit the earth. I either read it somewhere, or maybe a character in the movie says it.

This theory makes the most sense. If a huge comet was in the night sky it would be very bright, reflecting the sun's rays onto the Earth's dark side. It probably wouldn't be as bright as daylight, but for the sake of the plot you can stretch the truth a little.

Also, everyone knew exactly when the world was going to end. If a comet was on a collision course with Earth, we would know the impact location and time in advance by computing its trajectory in space. We would know about 6 months in advance, just like in the movie.

An impact by a comet is believed to be the cause of the dinosaur's demise.

I don't think the sun getting brighter is a good theory. If the sun were so bright (for months) that there was no night on the dark side of the Earth, the sunward side would be fried. And, they wouldn't be able to tell to the minute when the Sun would finally go Nova.

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See the threadline "End of the World - a contradiction" and look for my post there. The threadline pretty much debunks the Sun goes Nova theory.

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You know, the comment about dinosaurs really makes sense. Kind of like, you could imagine that this was something that went through Don McKellar's head as he was plotting it. "Well, the comet killed the dinosaurs. Why not us?"

"Is this a joke? Because if it is, it's both funny and well-executed."

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