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Russo's character ruined this movie!


I was looking forward to see this movie,since I like both Brosnan and Mcqueen very much.I have to say that Crown fits Brosnan better then Mcqueen,for me Mcqueen will always be a renegade,not a macho.
I also think that the Thomas Crown character is the perfect macho ever created on film and the contrast couldn't be any bigger between his and Russo's character.
What's with all the political correctness?Can't a man be a man anymore?I mean the girl betrayed him at the end,they should have left it like in the original,she's trying too hard to be a feminazi,to the point that it's not even funny.
But even if you don't mind the character,Russo just doesn't fit the movie,she is too old or too clumsy looking for this,she just doesn't have the look of a confident woman,Angelina Jolie,Sharon Stone or even Basinger would have been perfect for the role.

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I loved the original and wanted to love this one. I really enjoyed Brosnan and Leary and the look of this one but Russo's character wasn't tolerable.

I loved the fact that she was like Dunaway in the original; unconventional, aggressive, smart, unafraid and very aware. Where she completely fell apart was in how she was so abrasive. She tried to strike a balance between coy and bold and failed miserably. That annoying giggle that tried to say "look how clever and beautiful I am" was just awful. I loved her clothes and I loved what they tried to do with her but it just didn't work. I also loved that they picked a woman that was in her 30's and not some wise beyond her years wannabe 20 something.

I loved the look of this movie. I loved the score (still have the album from the first). I didn't think they could touch the original and in a sense they still didn't in terms of Russo. However, I enjoyed the other parts of it around Russo immensely and still watch it from time to time.

"Daddy! He's killed Steve and he's jamming the door with him!"

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Really? I loved her. And her perfect wardrobe and make up.

Snakes. Why'd it have to be snakes?

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Yes, her wardrobe was perfect and I still want those clothes. She looked good but annoyed the heck out of me.

"Daddy! He's killed Steve and he's jamming the door with him!"

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Rene's laugh made me want to jam a pencil in my ear. One of the most hideous guffaw I've heard in some time. Hate to come down on something so trivial, but yeah - she annoyed me, too.

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YOUR comment ruined this thread, "doctor". She is "Too old or clumsy" you say? You are too stupid and rude. Ageism reveals a lot about a person and it is nothing good. You ARE an ageist. And crude, with no taste and with bad judgment. "The perfect macho" ? That doesn't even make sense. Macho is an adjective.
Do us all a favor and don't come back to IMDB unless you know what you are talking about and can be decent.

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I'm feeling this.

I thought she was perfect in this, just right, a delight. I never know if someone posting online about looks is 10 years old or just quite ignorant and boring.

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I actually think she was a good choice because they needed someone with a strong personality and 0 bimbo factor. The only issue I have with her is I really hate her prominent chin. I honestly think they did their best to offset it with the heavy turtlenecks and even the fur wraparound thing she wore in the one scene where she makes him stop the car to get out. There are even scenes where it looks to me like they purposefully had something obstructing her chin, but I might be reading too much into it.

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Everything about the movie is great except for Russo. She killed it for me.

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DoctorINparadise says > I have to say that Crown fits Brosnan better then Mcqueen… I also think that the Thomas Crown character is the perfect macho ever created on film…
McQueen and Brosnan are very different people and as actors, each brings something different to the role. I think that makes both well-suited to play the Thomas Crown in their particular version of the movie. The name is the same but the character, as I see it, is distinctly different in each version. They have different priorities; different motivations.

In the second version, Crown is older, wiser, more mature, and is in the process of examining his life. He's ready to make a change and has finally found someone with whom he's very compatible on many levels. It makes perfectly good sense that he would not want to throw that away. McQueen’s Crown is still more of a playboy who’s looking out for himself; looking to have fun.
Can't a man be a man anymore?I
Brosnan's Crown is no less a man because he’s sensitive to someone else’s needs and is choosing to share his life rather than continue to go it alone. Clearly he’s realized one can ‘have it all’ and still not have much of anything. Accumulating wealth and having toys may be enough for some people but it takes a very strong man to accept his need to be vulnerable and not have to wear a façade if that’s no longer how he feels or who he is.
even if you don't mind the character, Russo just doesn't fit the movie, she is too old or too clumsy looking for this, she just doesn't have the look of a confident woman
Just as the Crown character is different in each version, so too is the female lead character. This, I believe, is why she has a completely different name. She’s not meant to be an update of Vicki. I think the fact they used an older actress makes complete sense. Crown is the prototypical man who chases younger women. Brosnan’s Crown apparently has done that; he’s tried the arm candy thing and that has apparently not worked; he’s alone.

He needs a woman who is in the same place in life he’s in; an equal; someone who won't defer to him. Catherine can go toe-to-toe with him and that's what he needs in order to not get bored and vice versa. They're both strong and would walk all over someone who's not. They both have trust issues because they've been burned. Still, they know trust is earned and developed over time.

Rene’s character is accomplished, successful, intelligent, and is not looking but has found a much deeper connection with someone than she's had. She is the female version of Crown. They don’t need to just be with someone for the sake of being with someone, it has to matter. They’ve both reached a point most people do not reach until they’re older and have had enough life experiences to know who they really are and what they really want.

Rene is perfect in the role. She plays it with the right amount of strength and vulnerability. She’s able to show that the internal struggle she’s having within herself is as strong as the one she’s having with him. She and Crown both have a lot more at stake; more to lose, than the characters in the first version. If they make a mistake there may be fewer opportunities still to come for a connection like the one they have.
the girl betrayed him... they should have left it like in the original
As Crown tells Catherine at one point, he wouldn't want it any other way. I think it's important that she not lose herself to be with him and vice versa. They meet and fall in love because of who they are. While they will have to make concessions, compromises, and adjustments to be together, they cannot completely abandon who they are; their values; even for each other. That would not work. This is why in the end we see he did not return the painting 'for her'. It was already there and she's not willing to let him get away with anything just because of her feelings for him. When she does go to him, he leaves the second painting for her and she returns it. They're not going on the run as his life of crime would dictate. If they were, she couldn't be with him.

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Russo was fantastic!

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Just watched it again and totally agree. Both Russo and Brosnan were terrific. This remake holds up whereas the original does not, despite its moments of classic 60s-isms.

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Both Russo and Brosnan were terrific.

Russo is perfect. I enjoy her performance even more than his.
Note: I changed the subject of my post.

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Rene Russo WAYYYYY Overacted in this movie.
Do Not bring her back if another film made.
Total HAM.
I mean this IS the type of movie that can be watched multiple times.
You just have to KNOW when to mute her.
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I don't mind Russo in other movies, but I couldn't stand her in this. I know part of this is her character, which to me, was incredibly annoying. I hated how one minute, she's tough and she's playing with the big boys, then she flies off the handle like a jealous teenager the next minute. And I didn't buy anything she said - when she'd get mad and swear, it was cringe-worthy, but the same for when she was trying to be all flirty with everyone - like kissing the detective as she left, and putting her lips on the ear of the Romanian guy she was interrogating, etc. She acted like her crap didn't stink and she could do whatever she wanted, b/c everyone wanted her, but as soon as another female entered the scene, than she got all hurt and pouty and was throwing a tantrum.

The movie should've ended with her getting the painting that he stole for her, and she's left on the rooftop. Everything after that, was nauseating.




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