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Is the farcical tone intentional?


I have a difficult time reconciling the farcical tone of the film and the seriousness of the crime (child molestation). Christian gives so little outward indication of his thought process that the audience can only take him as a comically neurotic cypher rather than empathizing with his anguish. Likewise, the neurotic behaviors of Helene (e.g., in the taxi, finding the note) and Michael (e.g., the shoes scene) are overblown to the extend that the characters are almost caricatures. Classism (the brothers taking sexual advantage of the maids) and racism (Else "misremembering" Gbatokai as "Gonzales") are lightly mocked at best and sometimes even played for laughs (Michaels telling Gbatokai no trumpet player is needed). For that matter, why demean Christian's old flame by show her horniness, or make the grandfather a fool who would think nothing of embarassing his 60 year old son in a formal occassion? And seriously, hiding the guests' car keys to make them stay?

Sorry, for me, the film is just set in the wrong tone (for the subject matter).

I must confess that in general, I find farce either too cultural specific or too shallow. Perhaps making fun of the uppercrust appeals to most Danes but I don't think it would resonnate with people from societies where class plays a lesser role (e.g., American).

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I just watched the film for the first time and while I can see where you're coming from with all those points, I have to say I interpreted them differently.

All of those farcical scenes at the start seemed to have clear purpose, setting up the characters etc, and they did give the movie that over-the-top feel, especially with the wide angle lens zooming around. However, as it went on either it was dialed down or I just fell into it and it didn't seem as absurd.

If anything, these crazier intro scene's just made the rape bomb blast bigger and really gave you that "holy *beep* moment. It supposed to come out of no where and feel off. It sounds like your reaction would be similar to the guests, they just couldn't buy it, not at big celebration like this.

I'm live in Australia, where class plays even less of a role than the U.S., I assume, and I didn't have a problem believing a family that backwards could exist. I do like to hate people like that though, so maybe I was more willing to just accept it.

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You made a fair point, but:

1) Ridendo Castigat Mores.

2) Although Class itself doesn't have such a prominent role in U.S. anymore, some related (and equally biased) cultural traits portrayed in Festen still remain (as a matter of fact in the whole world), such as patriarchalism, racism (as you mentioned) and, most important, the social pressure to keep the appearances.

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I would like to agree and emphasize that thesocial pressure to maintain appearances (particularly in a formal family setting) is a major part of what this movie is criticizing.

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Exactly. Also; it is very Northern European, the humor that is. I grew up in Northern Holland and live now for quite some years in Australia and I completely get the humor. Danish and Dutch love to hang out and understand each other's humor. I can see it's harder for Australians to understand it. When I see this movie; the first half an hour I'm off my tits, it's so damn funny and then towards the end it becomes an emotional rollercoaster which is just incredible. I don't really understand American or even Australian humor; it always seems so obvious.

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"Was that a joke?"

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I am from Holland to and i got the tone to, Its a bit over the top but its how we in Northern Europe behave (sadly)

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i guess you skipped argumentation class

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Yes, it was very clearly intentionally farcical. From the moment Michael made his wife and little kids get out of the car and walk(!) it became very clear that they were aiming for a farcical tone.
You kind of needed that in order to not be completely overwhelmed by the darkness of the subject matter at the heart of the story. It also made for a much greater shock when Christian gave his speech--it came totally unexpected.

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it's called dark humor, ffs

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