i just saw the alternate ending from the director, but i'm kinda torn which one i like better.....spoiler below if you haven't seen it.....
frankie is laying in Father Andrew Kiernan's arms, and it pans down to her side, where she recieves the final stigmata and bleeds to death.
kinda depressing, but i'm not sure if i like that ending or the theatrical ending better.
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I liked the first one much better. The second one puts so much more emphasis on the romance side to the story... which is probably the reason it wasn't in theaters.
shareI watched the alternate ending last night. It was so sad. Especially when he places her picture by the statue at the end.
I like the theatrical ending better. It made me feel hopeful. The alternate ending just made me want to cry.
Ya, I rather enjoy a ending that is hopeful and expansive... movies that end like the DC of this movie, and basically both versions of Butterfly Effect, seem pretty pointless.
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I prefered the theatrical release ending too.
The alternate ending was so SAD.
But i also thought it was presumptious of them to think that Frankie would get the 5th stigmata - as no one ever has.
But the question i want to know is...did Frankie and Andrew get together??
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St. Francis received all five wounds; in his biography, it states "In addition, there was a wound in his right side, as if made by a lance, from which blood frequently flowed, moistening his drawers and tunic." Some other saints may have received all five also. The movie is incorrect.
Source: St. Bonaventure, quoted in St. Francis of Assisi--A Biography by Omer Englebert.
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Even though in reality St. Francis did receive all five wounds, in the context of the movie, he didn't. So Frankie would be the "first" one to receive them all.
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Keeping the original somber ending instead of replacing it with the soapy Hollywoodish "happy" one might actually have lifted this movie above the pulp pool of celluloid mediocrity in which it ultimately sunk.
I prefer the alternate ending even though it was more sad and less hopeful as it sat better with the overall film. It was far more presumptious to make her survive the stigmata rather than die as a martyr which would have been a far more powerful ending.
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No, she does not die in the theatrical release. Nobody has ever died from Stigmata anyway. That is emphasized earlier in the movie.
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That sort of takes the point out of the movie, of God and destiny not being something we should lie back and recieve passively without assertion of ourselves. Bleah.
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I preferred the theatrical ending where Frankie survives. It gives some purpose to her spiritual journey through this ordeal and since most of the movie is about her experience and thoughts about what is happening to her the director's cut kind of cheats Frankie's story with a cheesy martyrdom. And if she was to become a saint-like spirit in the end I would have thought there might be some developement to that in the story, but there wasn't.
sharei preferrer the theatrical ending because the other one was just so sad basically. i think that the alternative ending probably is more emotional, and it says that in the book inside the dvd that it was more emotional and i agree with this. however, overall the ending that is shown is better as i think it gives more hope to the story than her just dying.
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This is exactly what I thought. The theatrical version does show that a nonbeliever now believes. She has no choice because she has physically experienced the death of Christ and knows what he did for US as it were. All because of beads her world travelling mother sent her. Clearly Father Alameida is able to do what he is doing because at that church in the end you see that he does indeed have a copy of the Gospel of Jesus at the site of the bleeding statue. He is invested with the power, even in death, to spread the word. The church tried to stop him because it would invalidate them.
sharethe alternative ending is 100 times better than the theatrical one love it cuz before she was suffering the stigmata cuz she was possessed but then she is dipossessed and get the last wound all on her own like she had earnd it it was actually her getting it this time not through the ghost
shareWhat happens in the original ending?
sharethe alternative ending is 100 times better than the theatrical one love it cuz before she was suffering the stigmata cuz she was possessed but then she is dipossessed and get the last wound all on her own like she had earnd it it was actually her getting it this time not through the ghostGood observation. I agree. While I don't like the thought of Frankie dying, I like to think she was more than simply a victim in a conflict that had nothing to do with her. I like to think she had substance of her own.
im sorry i only jsut checked this i forgot all about it. yes great observations from you too lol. she was saint like wasnt she always helping others and things like that and that she worked as a hair dresser in service not a job in an office she is helping people out in the world. do you know what i mean?
also the smoking thing they made her out to be a heavy smoker then all of a sudden she did not like it not that she wanted to give up but like she could not take it into her body like she was too important to smoke
Not that I don't like happy endings, but the alternate ending fits the movie better imo.
shareI thought that no one in history has ever died of Stigmata and there have been persons who have had Stigmata and had all 5 wounds? If this is indeed true, and St Francis had all 5 (in the 13th century and survived) then it would make NO SENSE AT ALL for Frankie to die, especially with the medical care available today. I have not read the journal/bio of St Francis, but Father Kiernan states that he lost up to a pint of blood a day. I have worked in a hospital for over 5 years and she did not appear to be bleeding that much (surprisingly), unless they did not show the extent (which does not make sense). I'm sorry, but the alternate ending just does not add up to available historical record/medical assessment.
sharei didnt like it. one of the main reasons i prefer the theatrical ending.
shareIt's hard to say for me, both these endings have their positive and negative elements. Having her die makes the whole story a bit pointless, because there is no salvation. Having her live may look dull as if some producer or studio was bent on having a happy ending.
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