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Is it really that bad? and how is it different from origional?


Ive just watched the origional and thought it was brilliant. Ive heard the remake is aweful, was just wondering is it really that bad? and what are the differences from the origional?

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Personally, I thought the remake was okay as its own thing. It was entertaining, albeit not what you would call "quality." I think the real problem in how it differed from the original is that it completely missed the point of the original. Making the humans able to talk totally took away from the reason they were being treated like animals by the apes in the original (they couldn't talk, they were very simple minded and less human, therefore it made sense for the apes to think of them as inferior). In the remake, the humans were...well, just normal humans, which made it kind of pointless and nonsensical. It was fun in its own way though, if you turn your brain off and just enjoy for what it is.

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Personally, yes - I think it was that bad, just barely an inch away from being unwatchable. I realize that some POTA fans like it or at least feel "it isn't THAT bad", but I despise it. Being an original fan of the old series I waited for this movie to be made for nearly 30 years. When I heard that Tim Burton was directing I had hopes he would make it dark, sort of like what he did with BATMAN. But in the end, it was just a terrible joke, which too often did not take itself seriously.

The only decent things I can say is that the male ape makeups were good (I thought the females were terrible, and that the lead chimp looked more like Paula Abdul). I think the character of Thade made a fine villain. Other than that, it was a painful disappointment.

Now, you can't say I disliked it because I was partial to the old movies; because I DID enjoy the recent RISE OF THE POTA, and I am eager to see the upcoming DAWN. I really wanted Burton's movie to re-start a new franchise and be good; instead, it was an embarrassment and has remained virtually ignored, which IMO is as it should be. Shame, shame on Timothy Burton!

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Personally, I thought the remake was okay as its own thing. It was entertaining, albeit not what you would call "quality." I think the real problem in how it differed from the original is that it completely missed the point of the original. Making the humans able to talk totally took away from the reason they were being treated like animals by the apes in the original (they couldn't talk, they were very simple minded and less human, therefore it made sense for the apes to think of them as inferior). In the remake, the humans were...well, just normal humans, which made it kind of pointless and nonsensical. It was fun in its own way though, if you turn your brain off and just enjoy for what it is.
The differences to the original 1968 film do indeed make it its own thing. Otherwise if it was just a copycat of the 1968 film, I don't think Tim Burton would've had any interest in doing it. And that, to me, is what makes the 2001 film worthy of watching and worthy of being apart of this bigger 'Planet of the Apes' franchise - because it's still its own thing.

And whatever you think the point of the 1968 film is - it doesn't necessarily have to be copied in the 2001 film. In the context of the 2001 story, it only makes sense for the humans to talk since the humans are offspring of the space station crew.

The fact that the apes could overthrow the humans - obviously it's a movie and it takes its liberties - but it's mentioned in the film that the monkeys are genetically enhanced. And when frustrated, they can act out violently. In an isolated environment and outnumbered, I suppose it's feasible for the apes to overthrow the humans. Especially as the apes seem to evolve very quickly over the years and become smarter and are physically stronger and more capable.

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For me at least, it's good because it's so bad.

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$100,000,000 BUDGET it should been a lot better.

Should have had a good script.

Special effects and make up, acting was great.

Script sucked. Just stupid...dont know what Burton was trying to do.
Idiot should stick to his cartoons.




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100% agree.

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Never saw the original movies, so I don't see anything wrong with this. I enjoyed the heck out of it

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Best do yourself a favour and watch them. Even though I don't hate this film, I do think that the originals are far better and more meaningful. Still, one can watch the originals and still enjoy this film.

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You're missing out, really the original is just fantastic.
2001 is just a typical modern remake, it's had some positives but over all just misses the mark.

I quite enjoyed the old tv series as well.

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I'm looking forward to watching the originals. The blu ray set was only 20 bucks over the weekend on Amazon.

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I know the last few in the series aren't that well received and had huge budget slashes but overall I thought even they were still pretty good. Escape being my least favourite, a VERY 70s style film and possibly a bit of an odd ball in the series but even that was quite good.

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