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WHY does nobody like this movie?


Honestly, I can't wrap my mind around the fact that I can only find about 2 other people who like this movie.

I'm one of those people who cry at everything (and by everything I mean legit everything, including jewelry commercials) and of course, I was bawling from the second the film started right up until the end. I absolutely love it.

I understand the sap-factor of the movie and that it is melodramatic at certain parts, but I feel like it's necessary! Is that the only reason people don't like it? Because I honestly don't think it was a poorly made movie in the least. The acting is great, the part is perfect for Williams, and I think the script is at least decent. The monologue on the cliff is amazing. If you don't like sappy movies, that's your problem, but that's the only reason I've gotten so far as to why people dislike Patch Adams, but almost everyone says they hate the movie.

Can someone please fill me in on reasons people don't like this?! It's a mystery to me, honestly.

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It's mawkish, trite and shallow.

Otherwise, it's tolerable if there is nothing better to watch.

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I developed a huge crush on Bob Gunton after watching this movie.He's the only reason I can tolerate it.

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This is a great movie and I don't care what the *beep* critics think.

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this movie inspires me. period.

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The first thing the real Hunter Adams told Roger Ebert when he met him was, "I hate that movie."

"What I don't understand is how we're going to stay alive this winter."

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And then Hunter Adams touched him, and said, "Up yours, my movie was a hit and calling it a maniulpative movie is bullcrap.

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Don't believe me, eh? Ebert proves it:

http://twitter.com/#!/ebertchicago/status/74603410325909504

"What I don't understand is how we're going to stay alive this winter."

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The problem is this. I am not against doctors who care for their patients, in fact, I think it is better than impersonal treatment. The thing is that Patch takes it too far. He is like John Keating in Dead Poets Society, challenging the establishment. But there Keating was a teacher who knew the difference between daring and caution, not with Patch Adams. Here is a great example: When all those little cancer victims come into the courtroom at the end, if Patch was a great doctor, he'd say, "Hey, you kids should get back in bed because your immune systems are shot to hell! Thanks for coming to support me, but I don't want you to die." Can you now see why a lot of people didn't care for the film?

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I'm not a doctor and don't know much about cancer but I fail to see how them coming out to support him would've damaged their health much more than it already was; exposure to fresh air? A feeling of rushed adrenaline? A release of endorphins because they were happy to come out and support him? That's worse than a hospital bed in a germ infested building full of death?

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You are exactly on point!

I spent time in a hospital with pediatric & adult cancer wings. Doctors actually encourage these patients to go outside when they feel well and let's face it, there is no better medicine than fresh clean air, sunshine (natural vitamin D for those who can handle the sunlight, unlike me where sunlight is contraindicated for my disease as well as contraindicated with most of my medications), and contact with other people.

Cancer is a lot like HIV/AIDs; too many people are afraid to be around cancer patients, esp after undergoing chemo between the hair loss process to complete baldness, and they don't know what to say to these people or the children for that matter. It's the same with HIV/AIDs patients. Their disease is not contagious by being in the same room, giving hugs, or shaking their hands. The latter disease is only contractible by contact with blood or fluids such as caring for an HIV/AIDs patient with a cut and you have an open sore. That's when and why there's always latex and special non-latex gloves for those who are allergic to latex. All these people want is a connection to another person. Is this so much to ask? I don't think so.

Also, children are extremely resilient when it comes to help problems, esp cancer and like diseases but still, they need to bond with people in order to remain viable as well as among friends.

~ Paise


I'm not a doctor and don't know much about cancer but I fail to see how them coming out to support him would've damaged their health much more than it already was; exposure to fresh air? A feeling of rushed adrenaline? A release of endorphins because they were happy to come out and support him? That's worse than a hospital bed in a germ infested building full of death?




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If their immune systems are shot to hell, they shouldn't be out of bed because they might catch cold and die. Being out of bed is not a good idea for them.

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BECAUSE WILLIAMS IS A MOVIE CLICHE AND OVERACTS?

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Because it's a horrible,hokey movie.Not to mention it portrays doctors as monsters.

"What the world needs is more geniuses with humility, there are so few of us left."

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And they're not? You couldn't prove it by my family's medical history, every doctor we've had the misfortune of seeing was either an incompetent boob or a tyrant who treated you like an idiot if you asked any questions because OH you know more than the doctor?!

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Of course what the OP is saying isn't true in the least sense. The majority of people who saw this film loved it.

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And it's to my understanding that Mike Farrell has found a couple of new writers for Patch to write another movie, if it's true, it should be interesting.

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Mike Farrell is retired, I don't think he's interested in making any more movies.

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The movie sucks because it goes too far in the fabrication of the REAL Patch Adams life just to make a profit. Even the real Hunter Adams said he hated the film and has stated that he wasn't happy with the fact that movie did nothing more to make him look like a "funny doctor" rather than the professional he is. Quote, "Adams has criticized the film, saying it eschewed an accurate representation of his beliefs in favor of commercial viability. He said that out of all aspects of his life and activism, the film portrayed him merely as a funny doctor. Furthermore, Adams stated, 'I hate that movie'."

But let's break things down shall we? The first departure the film makes from Adams' real life is his time in a mental institution. In the film we see a forty-five year old Patch Adams voluntarily checking himself into the institution because of suicidal tendencies. In real life, it never happened that way. Adams was institutionalized three times in one year but it was during his adolescence and never voluntarily. Because he suffered from severe bullying during high school thanks to "institutional injustice", he became unhappy and actively suicidal.

Departure Number Two. In the film, during his stay in the mental institution, Adams decides he wants to help people and decides to enroll in medical school. At this point, two years after his institutionalized stay, he is now forty-seven years old and considered "the oldest first year student" at the school and it's even joked at in the film. Again, this never happened in Adams' real life. He graduated high school in 1963, completed pre-med course work at George Washington University then began medical school and graduated from Virginia Commonwealth University in 1971 with a Doctor of Medicine degree. There was no twenty-nine year lag, Adams immediately enrolled into medical school after his high school graduation.

Departure Number Three. In the film Patch Adams befriends Carin Fisher, a fellow student at the school and over the course of the film, they fall in love with each other. We learn her tragic backstory of being molested as a child causing her inability to trust people and more so, the inability to trust men. Of course as the love interest, she learns to trust Adams and as she does, she decides to trust the male character Lawrence "Larry" Silver, a deeply disturbed patient and is murdered by him. While it is a very sad, emotional piece for the movie, the fact remains that it never happened. There was no Carin Fisher in real life. Adams did have a close friend that was murdered in a similar way to Carin in the film, but the biggest difference was Adams' friend was MALE. Not only did the writers, director, and who ever else change the gender of Adams' friend, but they also decided that in order to really help sell the film, they needed to tweak that sad, emotional scene for the audience. So they felt that while it would be sad to mention the murder of Adams' friend, it would be much sadder if it was his love interest that was murdered, a love interest mind you that never existed so we can later have Adams have an internal struggle of whether or not to continue his medical practice. Sure the real Adams meets a fellow student named Linda whom he becomes romantically involved with during his last year at medical school and then later marries in 1975, but the fact still remains that the character Carin was not supposed to represent Linda, but the fabricated FEMALE version of Adams' close MALE friend that was murdered in real life. Not to mention, in the film the murder takes place after the opening of the Gesundheit! Institute when in real life, the murder took place BEFORE the institute was built.

Departure Number Four. In the film, Adams and his colleagues run into the problem of constantly running out of medical supplies for their institute and they come up with the solution of stealing from the hospital that's part of their school. No really, they steal. I know Patch mentions in the film that the hospital is starting to learn about them "borrowing" medical supplies, but let's face it! If they borrowed the supplies, it would imply that they actually asked permission to take the stuff first. If they had BORROWED anything, then they wouldn't need these clever disguises to sneak the supplies out of the hospital. So yeah, they're stealing. And big surprise, the real Adams NEVER stole medical supplies and he didn't open the Gesundheit! Institute without a medical license as implied in the film. If I were Adams, I'd be pissed off too that Hollywood is misrepresenting me as an incompetent doctor that steals from hospitals and opens an medical institute sans license.

So with all that, plus the fact that in the movie Adams is portrayed as just a "funny doctor" omitting any research and effort he put into his work, the character is simplified into nothing more than the eccentric rebel that wants to prove "laughter is the best medicine" while misrepresenting doctors as being cold, heartless tyrannical individuals. Yes, some medical professionals might act that way, but there are others out there that don't. They're NOT all the same. And I know someone on here mentioned earlier that doctors tend to act like, "they know more than you or you don't know as much as them because you're not a doctor" and some how that's unfair? Uh yeah, they act that way because IT'S TRUE! My guess is you're NOT a doctor and didn't spend years of your life studying medicine to learn to become a doctor. Just because they might act dickish about it, doesn't mean you get the right to categorize them all like that or demonize them for that attitude. Have you ever stopped to think why a lot of doctors don't become emotionally attached to all their patients? Because if they did, they wouldn't be able to properly perform their professional duties and each time they lost a patient to a disease, the doctor will become exceedingly depressed and blame themselves for the loss even if it's a situation where THEY knew there would be no way to help the person. Why do you think so many doctors condemned the book One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest? Yes, it opened our eyes to the way mental institutions were being run at the time practically being able to get away with neglect of their patients but it also says that someone with no medical knowledge like McMurphy can somehow come in and "cure" the patients of their problems by simply treating them like human beings rather than the very sick people they are that need medical care by introducing that idea "laughter is the best medicine" again.

This what I think Hollywood achieved with their portrayal of Patch Adams. While the real Adams studied hard by doing a lot of research and becoming a well respected physician in the medical community, Hollywood decided to make him more in the vein of McMurphy, an individual who knew little to nothing about medicine (in the movie it says he studied medicine for two years while in real life he spent a majority of time studying and achieving his degree) but is enough of the eccentric rebel to come in and shake things up and disprove years of research and training in a selfish attempt to prove that medicine is not always the answer. Let's face it, Robin Williams is doing nothing different in this film that he's already done in other movies like Good Morning Vietnam, Good Will Hunting, Bicentennial Man and Man of the Year. They're all the SAME character and Williams did nothing to make this invalid portrayal of Patch Adams any different from the others. It's crap!

Oh and if you don't believe the real Patch Adams hates this film and also finds the idea that people that watch the film and think they personally know him funny, he also said this little bit of damning evidence against Robin Williams and his portrayal of him (the real Adams) on film, "He (Robin Williams) made $21 million for four months of pretending to be me, in a very simplistic version, and did not give $10 to my free hospital. Patch Adams, the person, would have, if I had Robin's money, given all $21 million to a free hospital in a country where 80 million cannot get care." Just remember shortly after that was said, Mr. Williams became a spokesman for the St. Jude Children's Research Hospital for the past several years.

Oh members of IMDb, yours is a dim-witted and insane lot!

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Well Bridget52492, I'll bet you wish you never asked this question...My Gaaawd!

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I love this movie. I know its sappy, cheesy, not very accurate but it makes me feel hopeful if you know what i mean.

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I am not having people witness my life.It's bad enough that I have to see it.

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We like this movie, it's on again now! And I cry easily at movies and this one gets me too. Robin Williams is funny and hope the real guy had similar qualities that helped the patients.

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