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Was it really Sarah at the end?


This was a good movie. Jennifer Connelly is so beautiful. I liked the haunting, surreal quality of the movie, the director captured the time period and circumstances very well. It was very honest and also very sad. The whole thing with Fielding seeing Sarah everywhere bothered me. But as much as I want to think she really was alive at the end, the last time he saw her in the movie, what I got from the movie was that it was all in Fielding's imagination, that she really wasn't there. He was just so traumatized by her death that he was seeing her and truly believed she was alive. Okay, it takes me a while to get movies like this, so no one get upset with me. But does anyone have any thoughts about this or the movie in general?

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I think that it was all in Fielding's imagination. But it's only my opinion, i think it could be Sarah too.

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I think it was purely his imagination, because she stood at such a significant moment on his doorstep. Their relationship got really tense when the subject of US Congress came up. Just at the point when it was clear he won the election she shows up at his office. Getting to his goal of becoming a member of the US Congress was the point were his hallucinations climaxed. At least, that's what I think.

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The first time I saw it I was left with the impression that it was just his imagination, but now I've seen it about 7 times (it's one of my all-time favorites), and it can absolutely play either way. Clearly Fielding hallucinates Sarah throughout the movie but the whole thing is permeated with a sense of destiny so it's not implausible that right after his election she actually shows up. And his little monologue looking out the window at the end.... he'll never know if it was really her or not, but what's important is the same in either case.

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I have seen it and please more input by some of you or All?

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It was purposely made ambiguous so that it could be explained in different ways. Basically, there are three possiblities, and we'll never really know which is what "really" happened:

1. Sarah is really alive, and went to see Fielding after evading him numerous times, while at other times, it was Fielding's own hallucination.

2. Fielding hallucinated the whole thing, due to the breakdown caused by the pressure.

3. Sarah is a ghost.


Pick your favorite. I like the first one, especially if you consider one of the deleted scenes, where there is mention of one of the immigrants being of the same exact same height and build as Sarah. My bestfriend believes the Sarah is dead, because she's the only person whose hairstyle and wardrobe hasn't changed.

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My bestfriend believes the Sarah is dead, because she's the only person whose hairstyle and wardrobe hasn't changed.

Good point, although it doesn't prove she was dead...she could be the product of his imagination, and obviously you don't update your memories of someone.

In any case, I think she was a ghost, at least this is how I read their phone conversation.

Zeph

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As so much I wanted Sarah to be alive at the end, reality is, is she is dead. These hallucinations really do happen to people suffering from loss, and it drove him even more mad. I think the film was less about Sarah, and more about Fielding's spiral into madness, and the restaurant scene is Awesome, this is the point in the film he recognizes his madness and decides to begin to let go, and the final scene is Fielding's way of completely letting go.

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also at the end, maybe its just me, but he comes out of the experience realizing he has that gift of projection. Of being able to almost physically recreate people. He uses this at the end when reading the previous congressman's letters, to imagine the people has to help, just as he was trying to help Sarah by doing this through out the film but it didn't work cause she was already dead. He can now use this gift to be a great congressman.

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The movie leaves off very open-ended, but the book is my absolute favorite novel, and it's pretty obvious at the end that Sarah was in fact alive. If you look at this from a political point of view (very much how the book is written) you'll understand why Sarah being alive was covered up.

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I'm happy that Sarah is alived!!
I think that too

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You are correct. Alive is the correct interpretation, she was not a ghost. In fact, the idea that she was in Fielding's imagination is for the most part ludicrous. She was alive, she was real, she had her reasons, although admitedly, the film did not deeply flesh out the politics, it was a love story, but because it did not flesh out the politics, it did not flesh out the cover-up, and instead left her realness or ghostliness, ambiguous, but clearly, she was alive.

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The politics are clear-she was a typical left wing nut and to them, the ends justify the means. Faking her assasination would be good for her cause-killing a young, attractive American would bring attention and was for pure political gain and that is what she really cared about. See, to show how evil Pinochet was, they couldn't be troubled by the facts(like the inconvenience that Pinochet wasn't the evil caricature they'd like him to be and that Allende wasn't the innocent good guy-he was a Soviet puppet and did a great job of inspiring an overthrow all on his own)so they have to invent them. It's lefty politics 101. The left has a long long history of becoming exactly what the supposedly hate. The bi*tch was alive the whole time. I think what Fielding said to her the last time they spoke sealed it for her. She was getting even and crushing a person that loved her simply because he didn't agree with her. With liberals, there is little or no tolerance for dissent.

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Not to mention that her wardrobe at the end was ratty-the sort of clothes she would be wearing if she'd been living in S. America all those years for her cause.

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He he he I am sorry but you sound just as narrow minded as the left wings do.

It is like this for me - stay in the middle - compromise for crying out loud - and don't go around blaming "the other side" all the time. It is much, much, much too extreme to view the world as black and white and to be either left or right.

Life is a single skip for joy

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nice point ajs, I hadn't considered that...

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Yes, it was a real person, not a ghost at the end. There are many reasons this is so, but another is to consider that one critical scene that was filmed, was deleted, wherein the young Chilean woman and man, who dont speak at the lunch scene as you see it in the finished film, actually DO speak, and she says (not in English) that she was just noticing that her hair, and "Sarah's" hair are the same, and they both are about the same height and same size hands, and they sort of look alike. This scene was deleted from the final film, because it irrevocably removed the ambiguities as to whether "Fielding" imagined her presence at the end, was she in his imagination, or was she real? etc...Clearly, if they left this scene in, they would be implying that it was THIS women who died in the car bombing, and opportunistically, perhaps "Sarah" and some of the church people, decided that since the initial press reports indicated it was "Sarah", (and it wasnt, it was the Chilean woman) why not go with it, and fake her own death? There was political advantages, as well as personal ones in that maneuver. So, indeed, she was real, not a ghost.

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In the book the priests are involved in covering up the faked death.

I have to agree with an earlier poster - the movie didn't tell Sarah's story. Because of that we get an ambiguous ending. Had Gordon (who is an excellent director) been more faithful to the book we wouldn't even be having this debate. However, the tone of the movie would have been different, more aggressive, because Gordon would have had to explain Sarah's politics more - which is why she faked her death.

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It never ceases to amaze me how many people think that Sarah is a 'ghost'.

This is a film about love and personal politics. If you ignore the point of the cover up surrounding Sarah's death and the importance of using an American death to discredit the Pinochet regime, then you ignore the central point of the film (that love equals sacrifice, even if that means sacrificing the one you love...)

I agree that Sarah's story is not really fleshed out, which makes her motives for doing what she did seem murkier and almost spiteful.

Still - few love stories nowadays are this subtle and heart breaking...

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it never ceases to amaze me how much people want a happy ending If you watched the film you would have seen Feilding Break down Her says he's losing it . She was alive only in his mind
Great movie

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There is nothing wrong with an altruistic spirit....life is full of sad endings so what is the crime in coveting a happy ending. Hope is the powerful antidote for all the negativity...I for one would hate to lose that. This spirit also allows the sad endings to be that much more bittersweet and powerful.

Throughout the entire movie, I desperately wanted Sarah to be alive so they could be together and then when she left I wanted her to be a figment of his imagination so that their love endured and still impacted him even years after her death. I hated the thought that their love couldn't help them overcome their obstacles so I chose to believe that she was gone but her spirit lived on in his heart.

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Just a thought... This movie hit me really deep.

I once loved and been loved in such a beutiful way that this is the only movie I feel comes close to what I experienced. We used to see love movies (chick flicks, as some insensitives call ALL of them) and not envy anything we saw.
We even had the hard-to-overcome barriers of what "being together" meant, more than in this movie, maybe.

Losing something like that, or letting go of it... for whatever reasons, makes you carry a weight I can not explain. It almost made me lose my sanity, but not in the form of schizophrenia (wich is what would be if Fieding imagined Sarah) but in the form of the deepest depression.

Time has faded a lot of things now, I feel OK. But I still get the feeling that there are some things I will never experience again... even with the woman I end up with.

Although I feel I had something most people never get to experience in a lifetime, I can only have mixed thoughts on wether it is good or bad having it.

I know I made no point (you brainiacs out there :) ), I was just replying to the original poster's "does anyone have any thoughts about this or the movie in general?"

BTW... I am chilean ;)

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oh you made a point. anyone whose ever been in love and had to suffer through a loss(whether from death or just simple parting) can connect with this movie. even if someone you love dies, you'll never be fully without them. a part of them stays with you forever, much like in this movie. that is the most important thing, i think. that you felt what love was like, and you can always have those memories and feelings for as long as you wish.

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I don't know how I posibly found my way to this thread, but what you (dreams in DTS) said rang so true to me. This is also one of my favorite movies because of the intense heart-wrenching emotion that it displays. I now can relate to this even further. My fiance told me last night that she's not in love with me anynmore. I still feel numb all over. I've always told her that I loved her unconditionally. I just never thought that this would be a condition. I guess, out of my love for her, I have no choice but to let her go and love her from a quiet distance. with this relationship, I've also experienced something that many people will never get the chance to feel. But I am also unsure whether it's better to have loved and lost than to have never loved at all. I guess only time will tell.

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i think that Sarah was really dead...the fact is that Fielding was the only one person to see her in the story and the director keith Gordon also used cleverly "jump cuts" in his editing to suggest that Sarah was a ghost in the ending (the scene where Sarah enters in Fielding's office and when she's next to him while he's sleeping...)
it is really a beautiful,moving,sweet and haunting ending.

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I think that Sarah was alive, not only did Fielding's sister once saw her (then she convinced herself it wasnt her, but i think it really was her) but like a reviewer said before, if you look at the deleted scene called "i want to have your child" or something, there is a girl that sort of looks like her and i think it was that girl who died, not Sarah. Also at the end Sarah says it's dangerous for him to speak of her, though the movie doesnt explain why, which is why i am currently reading the book. Its obvious that the director wants to leave it up to us whether it was Fielding's imagaination or if she was real. Of course, i think the voices and visions he had of her thougout the movie was in his imagination but i think Sarah was alive. Its sad that they could not be together. Once i finish reading the book, i will post more of my thoughts on this question.

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i m unable to get the book...so do put some detail on what was there at the end in the novel

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In the novel, Sarah is in fact still alive! They basically have the same conversation as in the movie, she had to stay in hiding and let the world think she is dead because what she does is not only ilegal but dangerous. She try to stay away from him but she just had to see him, he asks him they will see eachother again and she replies that she doesnt know. They fall alseep and take turn watching each other until finally he awakes to find her gone. He knows she is alive and he does not say whether he sees her again after that. When he finds her gone, he just goes read his letters of people's problem and how he could help and reading the letters is how the book ends. That quote at the end of the movie about whether she was real or not and his message to her was something like "keep fighting, god bless you, i love you," is not in the book. Anyway even though they could not be together, i'm still happy that Sarah was alive and wish the movie was more faithful to the book but in my opinion, it was still a good movie. I recommend the book if you like the movie, you can get it used at half.com, if that helps?

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That ending?

Well, I think it was left deliberately ambiguous, to give us web fiends something to write about at such a God forsaken time of the morning. But, for what it's worth, I prefer to think of Sarah as being a ghost, brought back in Fielding's dreams for one last time, as he eventually has to deal with his loss, powerfully, and almost all at once, at such a stressful - and pivotal - point in his life.

But that's just my opinion.....


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hey dreams, i sent you a PMsg.

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>But does anyone have any thoughts about this or the movie in general?

I love this movie, and it is one of my all-time favorites because of how much it reminds me of my husband and me. As someone else said, it's got some of the most haunting and moving scenes in a movie... unfortunately it didn't do well in the box office, but I hope it becomes a classic as it deserves.

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i have the book and i'll try to read it soon.
the ending of the film is ambiguous,and that's what keith Gordon wanted to do,he didn't want to give us a answer if she was alive or not.
i really prefer this decision when it's up to your imagination...this ending was really great and beautiful,because in some ways Sarah helps Fielding to "cure" his breakdown...it's an ending which is at the same time sad,sweet and optimistic.

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Have anyone considered the possibility of Sarah being a kind of missionary working for the Church? I think that's possible...



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IT WAS TOTALLY HER! i know it kind of leaves you thinking, but if you think about it, a reason could be that in your head, you can think of what happene next. if she was dead, the story would sort of stop there and how could he only be schitzophrenic for only a short time? he said he never saw her again

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Two weeks ago, I bought the book and she was indeed alive!

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I just finished listening to the book on tape, and at the end there is an interview with Scott Spencer. He basically says that he left it up to the reader to decide. In the book though it does seem to lean more toward her actaully being alive, where as the Movie (which I might add, was adapted beautifuly and even uses alot of the exact dialogue) does seem to suggest that it's all in his head.

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After watching this movie I assumed Sarah was dead. Come on, it's been 10 years and they're still obsessed with each other, but Nooooo, it's more important for her to save Socialism/Communism or whatever! And that line where he says he wasn't sure if she was real or not, what is that? You've been pining for this girl for 10 years, she show's up, you roll around on the floor, and you're not sure if she was real? In my mind that sealed it, she was a dream. Of course it's possible that she was real, which is what makes this movie so good.

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I have not seen this film, but i would like to see this film. To me this title of this post is a total spoiler. I have refrained from reading the thread because I don't want anymore spoilers. Please be careful when giving titles to threads. I would have preferred the title of this thread to be something like "Who was that at the end?"

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The structure of this movie reflects perfectly what Todorov refers to as the "fantastic." The viewer is presented with two equally plausible scenarios which remain in unresolved suspension: 1) the supernatural register in which Sarah appears as a ghost who continues to haunt Fielding as a reminder of both the loss (or lack) he is unable to fill and as a reminder of a moral agency he struggles to reconcile with his own; and 2) the empirically "real" register in which she has simply staged her own death, only to reappear to help him find closure and tell him that his insistence on finding her would be dangerous. The unresolved tension between the real and the supernatural produces a far greater psychological complexity and reminds us that "reality" is, in effect, a combination of fantasy and the real. And for me, the supernatural reading of the film is actually more plausible than the empirical reading, precisely because the film attempts to represent something which is unrepresentable--how the desires of the "subject," to use a psychoanalytic term, are articulated through the "other"; how our desire's are the other's desire, as they are internalized into our own subjectivity.

The figure of the ghost in supernatural stories always signifies some debt that needs to be accounted for, to be given meaning as that part of the past which can find no place in the present. For Fielding, Sarah's death is a traumatic event that he is unable to give meaning to. Her death had no "purpose." Even more importantly, Sarah represents an "ego-ideal" that haunts Fielding's own moral sensibility. That is, Sarah allows Fielding to see himself from the point of view of the idealized other. When Fielding begins to "see" those who've been writing letters to him as individuals, with all their complexity, and identify with them not as constituents or voters or some other object, but as real people with real needs and real pathos, it is then that the abstract "public good" becomes personal. He takes as his own Sarah's compassion and committment to concrete causes. It is only then that her absence is given meaning and she can finally disappear as a spectre who haunts Fielding's moral conscience.

So whether or not she is dead or alive becomes irrelevant once we locate the reality of the film in Fielding's fantasy frame, in his desire. The supernatural and the empirical are reconciled within his fantasy frame, which in fact structures his sense of reality and his relation to the objects of his desire. When Sarah reminds him that it is dangerous for him to keep seeking her, I take it that the danger to which she refers is the danger to Fielding himself. She is, quite literally, that part of himself which remains inaccessible to himself as long as he considers her as a lost object of love, through who's presence his own identity was thought to be incomplete without. And she disappears precisely at the moment at which, paradoxically, she becomes most fully present within himself, as the integral component of his own moral agency. He becomes who he was "meant to be" through Sarah, and Sarah becomes who she was meant to be through Fielding.

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Simple answer, she was dead. Throughout most of the movie it was Fielding's imagination.

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they did leave the part in where she was packing some of her own clothes to give to another woman, and with the deleted scenes it seems like they were initially going for alive. I like that they made it ambiguous though because it gave the theme a different tone. (+ if they were going to make her alive for sure then they would have needed more scenes that focused on Sarah and her politics and why she would need to fake her own death)

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I saw this movie a few night ago.I wanted to watch it until CSI miami was on but i couldnt change the channel. As much as this is a political story it´s a realistic lovestory aswell. It makes sense that Sarah has to be in hiding, because of all the politics, she cant very well pronounce that she is alive and well, about to marry a US congressman. She is alive but Fielding has to realise that there is no chance for them, it isn´t a perfect hollywood ending where they overcome al the obstacle and live happily ever after.

O r she really is dead, point is, it wasn´t a picture perfect hollywood ending. That´s why I love this movie, it could acctually happen to someone.

The quote when ´Sarah is talking about, how Fielding cant be everything to her and he replies -"but I want to be" is the best romantic quote of all times!

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Sigh.... it's just yet another example of that most tired of Hollywood attempting-to-be-(thinking they're)-avante-garde plot devices, the *ending that's left up to the viewer's imagination*. How did they ever get started doing this in movies? They never did it in literature, or at least very little. So it's a relatively recent addition, historically speaking. This was a great movie but why can't they just pick a story and *tell* it, if I wanted to guess, I could just make it up myself. Or see half of it.

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