This movie made me dislike religion even more

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My feelings exactly.

Ironically, I'm never affected by propaganda, especially not neonazi one, but this movie single handedly almost made me hate Jews in when I saw this piece of *beep* at the age of 9.

My argument assumes the existence of God, as you are assuming that a god who kills innocent children is a "bad guy."

God created life. He created people, and he daily gives life to each of us who is born. This "life" on Earth is not, has never been, and will never be a permanent gift. God has given it to you temporarily, and He will take it from you. That is a given. You are going to die.

Sometimes God takes young lives, sometimes old. Who are we to say that we know the wisdom (or lack thereof) in this? Does my 3 year old daughter understand my motives when I do something she doesn't like? I can explain to her until I'm blue in the face about calories, fat, cholesterol, diabetes etc. but she is not capable of understanding why she can't eat ice cream for every meal. To her, I am Mean Mommy every time I say no, and it's "I love Mommy!" every time I say yes. We tend to treat God in this same way.

But back to the original point. God has given life, and as such it is HIS prerogative to take it back when He chooses and when He sees fit. I don't recall God ever promising that everyone would die peacefully in their sleep from old age. Rather the opposite, in fact. What is important is to recognize our own mortality, even and especially that of our young ones, and to live accordingly.

Do you ever challenge God on His wisdom in creating you in the first place? Maybe in moments of emotional turmoil, but what about in your good times? Do you ask Him to justify creating you? Why then do you ask Him to justify death? He is not giving you death while allowing others to live. You are going to die. All of us are going to die. You can't avoid it, you can't escape it. It has happened for our entire history and is no surprise that this is our fate. So why do you rail against God for giving the firstborns the same fate as he gives every other human being the world over?

Please don't twist this into an argument that supposes I am not saddened when young people die. Far from it, and believe that I would be devastated and plenty angry if faced with the death of my own young one. But I flatter myself that at least I have enough wisdom to realize that I don't have all the answers and that maybe, just maybe, a God that created the universe might be more enlightened than I am in these matters.



"Well!!! Since when did you become the physical type?"

As much as I love Egypt...I seriously doubt that citizens crowned it an "honor". I mean have you seen these things...One block of rock was like picking up a small car. Also, Egyptian Gods did worse. Jews did have a privileged position for sometime in Egypt though...I think it's a mix of both. People think that if something shows proganada, that you should ignore the message or the faith behind it...i choose to ignore the propaganda ONLY (keep the faith and message though).

"Life is a movie. Write your own ending. Keep believing. Keep pretending"-Kermit

First off your judging the story from the wrong perspective. If your going to look into history, or religions you have to be able to leave your personal biases at the door. You have to look at this story from the perspective of those it was written. To the Hebrews death did not have the same connotations you give it. The death of the first born child was a punishment to the adults of Egypt who lost those most precious to them. The Hebrews believed that when those children died they were brought to heaven to be with their (being the Hebrew) God. Which to a Hebrew or those of Jewish faith was the highest honour one could gain. Death is only sad for those left behind not those who died.

Secondly, as you began to learn more about your history you will learn that history is written by those with the most power. The Egyptians like any civilization would tend to write about themselves in a positive light other civilizations tended to not. The truth is somewhere in the middle. Look more into Egyptian history you might find some disturbing content their as well. No religion, civilization, or people was better then any other you will find dark passages everywhere.

Thirdly the Old Testament was written years after the fact. These stories were originally told by word of mouth for hundreds of years before they were written down. Things got lost and embellished to make for better story telling and so you could remember it better. To those who believe in it is not hard to rationalize why somethings might not completely match up with history. Bits of history get lost over time and we don't have an even close to complete picture of what Ancient Egypt was really like. Points of view have a way of warping things. Ancient history is almost as subjective as religion.

Its something you'll get used to a mental mind *beep* can be nice!

The Bible makes reference to the good times between the Hebrews and the Egyptians. Hell, Joseph took his family to Egypt and they were treated fantastic. So they stayed. But in 6,000 years a lot can happen. And approximately 400 years is barely over 5% of that history, so why bring it up in textbooks and such?

Anyway, the point I wanted to make was this: the Abrahamic religions aren't based on doing what is good. They only focus on doing what God, YHWH, and Allah tell them is good.

They masquerade under the image of doing right, but they just want to make their God happy. And the worst thing is that these religions are so prominant, and they're followed by so many, that anyone who steps back and asks "why do we follow a God that kills children?" is attacked and either submits to the pressure and accepts it or leaves.

Just like in the real world, whoever has the power makes the rules. Or is it money? Well, money is power. Christians, Jews and Muslims believe their respective gods have all the power, so they follow the rules.

So in that way, those three religions are just like most every other religion. The difference is they believe that because God has the power, and thus makes the rules, He is always right. Which isn't the case. A god who kills children is wrong. It doesn't matter if he does it as payback, or as a lesson or whatever. And anyone who looks at it and says it isn't wrong is delusional.

Don't get me wrong. There are plenty of good thing in those religions. A lot of basic rules that every human agrees with. "Do onto others..." and that sort of thing. But the bad is just as evident as the good. So anyone who claims to worship God because He is good is wrong. You worship gods to keep them from killing you. And since those three religions aren't the sole religions, their God has less power than they think.

"You can't wear a vest with a vest. That's just tacky."

I was only six years old, when I was first told the story about the Egyptian children. And yes, it is a really creepy story to a modern audience (as it also must have been to all the parents, who lost a beloved child during that night). But even as a six-year-old, I understood that what was described was to be seen as a necessary evil. And besides, you can see it as a retribution for all those murdered Hebrew babies. But the most important thing to realize here is, of course, that the story comes from an ancient culture, that had very different values from what we have today. People back then were taught to not question God or his wisdom or his actions, and death was most likely more natural to them than what it is to people today.

Intelligence and purity.

God punished all those "innocent people" because nearly all of them, 99% probably, were supportive of what the pharaoh was doing. They were supportive of him keeping slaves. Many of the Egyptians owned slaves. It was a normal thing for them, and they thought it was ok. This just shows you how evil the Egyptians were. Egyptians worshiped many gods. The Hebrews worshiped God and put their trust in him, and God could see that his people were suffering. So he put an end to it. This punishment wasn't just for pharaoh, it was for all the Egyptians that wouldn't turn from their wicked ways. And as for the Egyptian children, the ones that died will go to heaven. They are only children, and God knows they don't know any better. He always knows what's best.
(I'm not just speaking of this on terms of the movie, I'm also speaking of the real story in the Bible this movie is based on. Most Egyptians were awful people