This film perfectly justifies white racism

Point out the justifications in this film.

I had the same impression dtafightclub.

The movie made some strong arguments for white supremacy/white racism...but didn't seem to have very strong arguments against.

The moral of the story, both in prison and out, seems to be=
stick with your gang even if you don't agree with everything, because there is safety in numbers.

I just watched this film. I only saw the average rating and thought maybe it would be good, obviously. I am DELIGHTED to see the metascore, once I finished watching it to know that critics did not claim this movie was good. It was laughable.

SPOILERS, in case anyone is reading this who, for some reason, doesn't expect them in this.

First off, the acting was ok at best.

Second, the ironic ending where the black guy shot him, unprovoked.

Third, it's so realistic that everyone would change their outlook in one day. lol Taking down the stuff off the wall, the girlfriend so quickly going form loving him to telling someone to shoot her bf, the younger brother just changing his entire outlook due to a 5 minute story told to him. Just so much realism.

If they wanted to give this message that hating for no reason is wrong, they shouldn't have had the black characters doing bad things and they should have made everything believable instead of going so far left, such as implying that most criminals are there due to racism. lol

I liked it well enough to give it a 6, still, and was glad to see critics agreed. I was all ready to come on here and say critics' high score shows how they bias everything on their political views.

It was ok, but I was getting movies sent to me from Netflix, and this wasted one of my discs where I am getting one less great movie, thinking this one would be great.

This film unapologetically outlined point for point everything that is wrong with our country.

The most ignorant post's on this message board are the ones that claims "See white people are racist..."

What they won't hear is the arguments in the film that drive the point that WE ARE HELPING YOU, AND YOU ARE SPITTING IN OUR PEOPLES FACE.

It's politically incorrect for white people to stand together, and look out for their own... but look at everyone else!

We are being torn apart, and fed to fat single mothers on welfare who raise criminals.... It's time people started looking at the statistics, the facts.... THE TRUTH

I don't think the OP and I saw the same movie.

The movie is clear that whatever white, black, yellow, blue, purple, or whatever other color a human might have, being human comes first, and there's decent people everywhere, and there's also scum everywhere.

The purpose of the movie was to show the perspective of Derek and Danny. What sparked their descent into the hate movement, what kept them there, and what led them out of it.

For most people who watched the movie, it was something of a mind-bender. Most, I suspect, started watching it expecting to hate the main characters all the way through. But even in their darkest, most twisted moments, there's something about Derek and Danny that resonates. So much so that, by the end, I suspect quite a few viewers were actually ashamed that they'd empathized with Derek and Danny, even in their lowest points.

As a parallel, there have been several attempts to dramatize some portion of Adolf Hitler's life. The two more recent ones have tried to avoid simply painting him as a cartoon, and instead tried to portray him as a person. A horrendously flawed, hate-filled person, but nonetheless a person. One of them (Hitler: The Rise of Evil) tried so hard to avoid treating Hitler sympathetically that it ended up verging on cartoon-dom. The other (Der Untergang) succeeded because it humanized him without making him much of a caricature. It generated a form of sympathy for the subject that seems strange until the viewer realizes what it really was: the same kind of sympathy a person feels for a rabid dog, while also acknowledging that it must be destroyed.

It's basically impossible to effectively deal with hate and evil without first trying to understand it. Yes, the movie ended with "don't waste your time hating", but that theme is expressed elsewhere in the movie too. Most eloquently by Dr. Sweeney when he visits Derek in prison after his rape:

"There was a moment when I used to blame everything and everyone for all the pain and suffering and vile things that happened to me, that I saw happen to my people. Used to blame everybody. Blamed white people, blamed society, blamed God. I didn't get no answers, 'cause I was asking the wrong questions. You have to ask the right question: Has anything you've done made your life better?"

I think most reasonable people would have seen that Derrick's arguments, like Hitler's in Mein Kampf, were just an angry man pissing in the wind. Anger at the death of his father, who we are also shown indoctrinated him with racist ideas, was his issue, and he'd used non whites as a conductor for this anger. Ultimately every white supremacist he listened to was full of crap, and we are clearly shown this. The only person who was straight with him and could actually offer him some peace in his mind was Sweeney, who happened to be a black man. Notice in the jail, he talks to him about his father, about his anger, not about how noble blacks are? Sweeney offers him a potential end to the anger that drove him, not a piece of black brotherhood.

The big argument against each and every one of his rants is reality, which is also the argument from Sweeney's words. Not a single opinion Derrick had held had stopped his pain or improved his life.

Wow what kind of an idiot watches the entire movie and thinks it justifies white supremacy. How about you open your ears when you watch a movie you *beep* *beep*

The dinner scene with Derek's mom's Jewish boyfriend actually provides arguments for both sides of the Rodney King debate. Also, Derek's father's argument about affirmative action can easily be counter-argued. The movie is about racial tension as a whole in this country, favoring neither whites nor blacks. The only way anyone could see this as justifying white racism is because it follows a white supremacist. I suppose by that logic, Malcolm X also justifies Islamic extremism?