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If this had 'nazis' instead of racist americans and . . .


. . . jews for african americans, believe me it would have earned atleast 3 - 4 academy nominations and a certain few wins.

So, what does it indicates ???
Think about it.

"With great Power. . comes . . . great Responsibility".

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Couldn`t agree more!

Maybe someone in the cast should have shouted "Holocaust" in one scene, that way more than a few people would have known about this movie.


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unfortunately, it is "easier" for american audiences to look at dramas depicting oppression situations in foreign countries, than it is to look at the oppression of domestic history in the USA..

"With Great Power Comes Great Responsibility"
Stan Lee, 1962

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I will agree that Cheadle may have gotten a nomination but no one would have likely won. I liked the movie a lot, even saw it in the theater. Most of the problems occur with Ving's sheer superhumaness. I loved it when he was messing people up but he just didn't feel like a whole character to me. Would have loved him to have some supernatural sheen like Clint Eastwood in High Plains Drifter or Pale Rider.

Not every Holocaust film gets major critical acclaim. Take Defiance, which was essentially a Holocaust film, it was rubbish.

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I do agree these storys need to be told. Also this kind of thing happened way to much. However, I am sorry folks but this was pure Hollywood !

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I don't know whether the problem with comments like this is that they are far too naive or far too obvious and needlessly redundant.

I'll bite. This movie is about as Hollywood as it can be. And why not? It's a movie. And made 80+ years after the fact, to boot. I'm fairly sure that's why words such as "dramatization" are used to describe the retelling of past events. Sometimes even in - yes, movies.

I don't get the confusion based around the so-called "sappy" moments in this film, the happy ending, or the fictionalized character Mann. The American audience has proven time and time again that it lacks the maturity to handle a film like this told with no "happy ending". If you don't like the happy ending, decide en masse to stop panning movies you consider "a bummer", quit rewarding mindless ridiculous action films about robots and such with hundreds of millions of dollars in box office receipts, and reward movies of substance instead. Demand them, in fact; with your wallet.

I don't get the picking and choosing of certain characters as heroes in this film. If you understood what was going on, you realize that everyone who persevered through this ordeal was a hero. From Sylvester to his mother, to Voight's character, to Mann, to the children freezing and terrified in the swamps. Someone on here actually blew by the entire cast (and the point) and decided the train operators were the primary people worthy of praise. As if they had so much more at risk. Wow - LOL. Didn't Voight cover that while berating them for initially refusing to return to the area?

Since there's so much certainty that this was not Singleton's best movie, which one was? Boyz in the Hood? Why? Higher Learning? Why? I thought being a Hollywood shill was a mark against a movie? Boyz in the Hood was more of a trumped up Cliff Note than Rosewood could ever dream of being.

Let me guess: 2 Fast 2 Furious. Best he ever made.

And some events defy dramatization. This was one of them. Bruce McGill in an interview admitted to becoming physically ill while researching these facts to play a character who hands down must be the most monstrous and to me the most heartbreaking in the movie. When I think of that, it tells me as a Black man, something of how far we've come as a country, and reminds me that we all regardless of color, are truly equal. In potential for cruelty as well as for kindness, even as other realities assure me how far we have yet to go and how unequal things seem. But in watching this movie many times and not being able to do so without crying, I can say that I don't know what it would have taken for me not to find this film gripping, excruciating, and tremendously effective.

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higher learning is amazing man

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Higher learning is redundant and ridiculous.

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It was a made for TV movie so it would not had gotten any Oscars it would of been Emmy's. But I get your point. In the Academy Awards movies about the Holocaust were winning so many Best Documentary Oscars that they had to change the voting rules for the category.

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This wasn't made for TV, it got a theatrical release back in 97. I even saw it on the big screen.

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I think that is a very racist thing to say and I am african american. Truth being, Rosewood was not that good, I am sorry but it was not. I have seen my share of Holocaust films ranging from Schindler's List to Defiance to the TV made Escape from Sobibor and to me (just my opinion)all three that were mentioned were better. Jewish people still feel and experience the same prejudice as us african americans in the United States, so constantly putting down or talking about individuals who are pretty much running the same hurdles as us....ask yourselves, are we racist?

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what are you talking about jews get way way way less racism than af. americans. How is it racist to point out it was a good movie that played out the events that happened. I think its correct that some americans dont want to look at their past but would rather look at the German's past. JordanJanellejoy your post is just really irrelevant to me.

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Jews receive less racism NOW, but, historically, Jews have been treated worse for a longer period of time. Jews have been persecuted for about 2,000 years and subjected to numerous examples of massacres.

As for the movie, it was decent, but not Oscar material. Singleton did a great job with portraying the craziness of the mob and the actions of the sheriff, though.

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I am not saying that it is racist to point out events that did happen, however, by stating that if the movie was about Jewish people and featured Nazi's, that it would receive an Oscar nomination or win is. No offense, but I feel slightly annoyed when people, especially blacks, put down Jewish people. Jewish history is about ten times worse than that of African Americans, and yes, I do acknowledge our struggle, and yes I do acknowledge our history. I just see hatred of Jewish people by African Americans (not saying the OP hates Jewish people or anyone, but personally knowing so many African Americans that do)to be an oxymoron.

As far as my post being irrelevant, sweetie you answered me.....how am I irrevlevant again?

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And I am sick and tried of people comparing Genocides. ALL of them are horrific, no one is worse then the other or better. That's absurd and stupid to even imply one was better or worse. It is just another way racist or a sorry azz black appeaser pit black people against Jewish people by comparing slavery to the nazis holocaust of the Jews. As to say who suffered the most. How dare you!

I would gather to say that quite a few groups of people who were victims of genocide would not dispute my contention. People like the Albanians for example. Or how Stalin got rid of millions of his own people.

And there is a lot of Jewish hatred for black people. It is not a one way street and Jews are no victims. And I do not think you do them a favor putting them in that ridiculous positions. There a lot of hate going back and forth.

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