I loved the movie... but the kid got me out of my nerve. I understand he wanted to be a girl, but he undertook his family really low, his dad loses the job, they move to lower-class neighborhood... is it fair to consent your son's homosexuality? Wasn't Chris a good opportunity for both to get back to the straight path? I don't know, it was shocking.
shareThe conflict I see in this thread is how do people with mutually exclusive ideas get along or don't get along in society?
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It seemed more like they had simply given up on it. Afterall they had just been dropped a few rungs on the social ladder and certainly have more important things to worry about. I agree with the Topic Creator though. Ludo's behavior was, quite frankly, selfish and ultimately destructive towards his family. No matter what he thinks, no matter what kind of surgery he has later in life, wouldn't change the fact of who he really his (a boy).
I don't think the working class people are any less bigoted than the middle class. They just got lucky. Ludo's first friend there was a tomboy rather than just a boy. If it had been a boy rather than a girl, the family would've faced just as much scorn as they would've back with the middle class families.
Personally, I read the ending a bit differently. To me it seemed like he had matured, realized that he couldn't have these fantasies anymore, and sort of moved on. After all Pam was flying alone there and earlier on Ludovic seemed to understand that he can't be wearing dresses, because it would only cause the family trouble.
I'd say he was bit gender confused, but really just late to mature.
"Personally, I read the ending a bit differently. To me it seemed like he had matured, realized that he couldn't have these fantasies anymore, and sort of moved on. After all Pam was flying alone there and earlier on Ludovic seemed to understand that he can't be wearing dresses, because it would only cause the family trouble."
Was there a version of which I'm not aware? The film ends with the parents pledging to support Ludo no matter what, and we see the children running around in the backyard with Ludo happily wearing the princess costume dress. When Pam flies by, she gives a sly wink to the camera. My take on that is that Ludo's future will continue to involve the feminine ideal that Pam represents to him.
One doesn't "mature" from gender identity disorder. It's considerably more intense than being merely confused.
When Ludo tried to be a "normal" boy to appease his family, it was a disaster. Far from being selfish, Ludo was just trying to fit in somewhere.
Regardless of what one believes regarding the surgical treatment of transgendered people, it does allow them to better assimilate into society.
There was a 20/20 episode with Barbara Walters last night that dealt with this. So many of the stories reminded me of this movie. It was wonderful that the children had such supportive parents who learned to understand what their children were going through. I'm sure they've all seen this movie by now.
Who he really is?
HE didn't even know who he really was, and you think you know?
Gender comes from the brain, not the sex organs. Sometimes people are a different gender than they may appear. It's not fair or psychologically healthy to insist that someone just "suck it up" for the good of everyone else.
One example of gender identity issue gone horribly, horribly wrong:
http://www.infocirc.org/rollston.htm
The case of John/Joan.
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It has been my observation that a significant percentage of the population is unable to fully comprehend the concept of gender. Gender is completely and utterly a product of social constructs; that is to say that we are under no biological obligation to do and say any one particular thing with regard to our biological sex. Men, women, and those inbetween develop those habits and characteristics termed masculine, feminine, and androgynous through the socialization of those family members and peers that influence them during development. Characteristics of each gender categorization are constantly changing over time and differ across cultural and geographic boundaries, so it is improper to impose any expectations on any one particular individual based solely on their genetic code and/or primary and secondary sex characteristics. When we are allowed to express ourselves as our most basic life force wishes us to, we are capable of becoming the best individuals we might become in this lifetime. On the contrary, when we are limited by rules and regulations instilled upon us without regard to the diversity of human experience, we are developmentally stifled.
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Technically sex is biological (which reproductive parts you have) and gender is non-biological. In this, the child is a male in sex but in gender he is a girl.
shareTechnically sex is biological (which reproductive parts you have) and gender is non-biological. In this, the child is a male in sex but in gender he is a girl.
Exactly! Absolutely true.
great comment, agree completely
shareI think you're almost correct but I don't think it's correct to say that neurological development is precisely identical for male and female children. There are bound to be statistical differences arising from the effects of genes on the Y chromosome. Men with different concentrations of testosterone in their blood behave differently. I think it's important to acknowledge these differences at the same time that you explain the huge impact that culture/environment has on the development of any animal.
shareI don't know if the original poster was trolling for comments or not, but disipline will not help this boy. He wants to be a girl. He is a homosexual, a bottom. He already knows it.
The people that needed the help was his family and their neighbors/so called "friends".
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Please educate yourself, that girl's problem was a transsexual one, not homosexual. He was already a girl, only she didn't look that way due to biological abnormal development. The point of the film was to show how strict and blind the society is following rules that only we have created for ourselves, but once something comes out of ordinary then we try to get rid of it, because it doesn't fall into our criteria of normality that we have envisioned for ourselves. The real help should be for the whole world to open tweir eyes, we still have a looooong way to go to accept the fact that nature doesn't work the way we always expect to.
Whoever posted this missed the point of the film.
Children haven't yet been conditioned to forget who they are. The parents can be a great help in doing their very best to try and make the child forget, fncking them up in the process. And then the child turns into their parents.
This is the vicious cycle. This is the fallacy. I was a very feminine boy and this movie makes sense to me on all levels. It's not the parent's problem that Ludo IS who he IS. And they never had to make it their problem, blame him, etc. People's reactions are choices, nothing more.
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I think it's shocking that you want someone to be physically harmed for being themselves and not harming anyone else.
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