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You Americans are no better! (Do not enter if you get easily offended)


You stole most of your land from Indians, putting them into their own reservation, and massacred them. And you dare to call yourselves "American"? WTF? Tibet was China's continent for hundreds of years after it was first governed by China in Qing Dynasty. it has been always our land and it will be forever. You Americans suck! You believe Da Lai Lama? A religious extremeist who wants to separate Tibet from China for SIMPLY the religious differences. China eneded the slavery of Tibet, didn't you know that? You people really lack deep understanding of what's happening in China. I tell you what: The day you want Tibet to be "liberated", then return your lands to Hawaiians and Indians.

IN short, you Americans are no better! You were robbers robbing the land, and China simply reclaimed their property.

No psychical attack! No bitching! No curse words! Otherwise, get the hell out!






China: One of the best emerging countries on earth.

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I'm not going to get upset here, but I appreciate the irony of you insulting Americans and then requesting that they responds without using curses. Anyway:
- Tibet was China's for hundreds of years? Yes and the Qing Dynasty pretty much stole everything it wanted. Let's not forget that before that Tibet was ruled by the Yuan, so Mongolia has just as good a claim to it as China does...
- A religious extremist who wants to separate his country because they follow a different religion? Ok, let's get this back in the proper order. They chose to follow a religion. China decided to randomly massacre people to "cleanse" the area of that religion. So the people you can compare yourselves to, with regards to motivation and historical period, are the nice folk of Nazi Germany, not 20th century America.
- If you deny Tibet the right to exist, I wonder what you think of Israel. Tibet existed under a legitimate form for a lot longer. I'm not baiting a flame war here. I am genuinely interested: it'll either show inconsistency in your thinking, or reveal an interesting philosophy that would make for a good discussion.
- China ended slavery in Tibet? I'd always wondered what they put on their internet to plug the holes their censorship left behind. Now I know.
- America has a dark past, but at least its present is a bit less shameful, whereas China rolls on, crushing political and religious dissent with no regard for the freedom and dignity of many of its own people.

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My 'Free Tibet' t-shirt was made in a Chinese sweatshop.

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China is also claiming lands & the waters of the Philippines, Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam, Japan, and Korea. Making claims doesn't make it so.

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Why is anybody even bothering replying to the op??? Why waste your time? He is clearly an uneducated, ignorant, whiney little C U a Next Tuesday.

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Well.
Americans present and near past is not at all shameless.
Go ask any latin american that lived under dictatorship financed by the americans (yes, there wer other dictatorships aside Cuba, which US propagates as the only dictatorship to have ever existed in america continent just because it was the only communist dictatorship).

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Not to mention America did not have a very good part in all of this as well. We basically aided tibet (barely) just so China would oppose tibet even more. Our aid was mostly funds serving only to challenge the Chinese government in a cold war scheme to destabalize them, and not to help the people of Tibet from oppression.

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Spoken like a true Party member, comrade.

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Why can't both Chinese and Western netizens both just engage in some dialogue and find a common ground? The fact is that human rights is inviolable right? It means that if they're violated, they're violated and whatever happens in one country doesn't justify whatever happens in another. What doesn't help is when somebody claims the moral high ground and argues that because of whatever injustices and inequalities exist elsewhere, their country is superior.

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