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The whole Sheriff/ Cop thing question?


Hi all.

Sorry for my ignorance on this but I live in the UK.

I watched CopLand yesterday and enjoyed it very much, but had a little trouble understanding the whole Sheriff/ Cop relationship.

I always thought that the Sheriff was the top guy (even above the cops) but in this film Stallone is undermined by the cops at every opportunity, and seems to know/ get involved in very little.

Can anyone explain the whole sheriff to cop relationship please? are they one in the same entity? it said that Stallone's character cannot become a cop because of his hearing damage, but he is ok to be a Sheriff?

When I watch "Small town America" films and TV such as The Walking Dead, The Crazies, First Blood etc. the Sheriff's department seem to get involved quite heavily with stuff, sometimes with no cops there at all.

I don't really "get it" and would like to know a bit more.

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Most U.S. States have counties and each county has an elected Sheriff for that county. Within the county may be several incorporated cities all of which may have individual police departments headed up by a chief of police.

The Sheriff or his/her deputies have jurisdiction over the whole county including the cities. The Sheriff, in most cases is considered the top law enforcement official of the county.

The sheriff is an elected position and therefore very political. The chief of police is mostly and appointed position.

This movie, or at least the portrayal of how they treat the high Sheriff is pretty unrealistic

This is just a quick rundown

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Typically a Sheriff has jurisdiction over a county (although only the city is mentioned in the movie). Sometimes the incorporated cities within the county allow Sheriffs (and their deputies) jurisdiction within those cities inside the county as well. A sheriff also has other less 'cop-like' functions: providing basic court related services such as keeping the county jail, transporting prisoners, providing courthouse security and other duties with regard to service of process and summonses that are issued by county and state courts. The sheriff also often conducts auction sales of real property in foreclosure. So these other 'lesser' duties may give the impression that they are not 'real' cops. Often they are paid less than the city police. Other less common law enforcement titles are constable and marshal which may or may not have similar or more police like functions depending on the locality. Job titles vary somewhat so you would have to know the details to be sure what the difference is and who is considered more of a cop.

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Thanks guys, that has really helped me "get it" a bit more.

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The cops in this movie are New York City cops living in New Jersey. They're part of an entirely different police force (in an different state across a river) than Stallone's character.

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I don't think being a sheriff isn't seen as being inferior to being a big city cop, it's because he's Sheriff of a such a small town where not much happens and he only has 2 deputies, whereas naturally the NYPD cops work in a tougher environment. But many Sheriffs probably command a lot more than 2 deputies and have greater responsibilty, prestige and pay than any of the cops in this film.

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Big City Cops look down on all other cops

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The cops lived in Garrison NJ but were working for NY city. They had no jurisdiction as law enforcement in Garrison.

Police are city law enforcement and the Sheriff and Sheriff's deputies work for the county and yes there is some over lap. In the film these were NYC cops who were just living in Garrison.

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