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Disturbing Implications about Poison Ivy


I've mentioned some of these in the past, but this film has a lot of disturbing, and sometimes even gross, implications about Poison Ivy and the nature of her character if one really thinks about it.

1. How Ivy discovers her powers. She mentions how her lips are filled with venom (which she likely finds out through taste), her skin with chlorophyl (which she can tell by looking at and feeling herself), and most importantly her blood with aloe. She has no noticeable cuts when she learns this information so the only way she could know about her blood is that she is menstruating, which would make sense especially when considering #2. Also later in the movie, when Robin asks if Ivy's thumb is the only part of her that is green, and she responds by saying "you will just have to find out," which implies he might get to see Ivy naked and she has a green vagina.

2. Ivy is pregnant. Because she is fertile and wants to rule the world and populate it with her plants, Ivy impregnates herself through sex with a plant (maybe underground during her transformation, there were some vines hanging out of her ripped up pants) or Bane (Ivy might have chosen him for his strength and as a way to celebrate her defeat of Woodrue, also because of his mask and venomous nature, Ivy could be intimate with him without killing him, and he always follows her around like a devoted lover for no reason and she calls him "darling"). Ivy's children are conceived as seeds and grow inside her until she gives birth to them in the Turkish Baths scene. Notice how the seeds do not appear until Ivy squats down and puts her hand near her crotch, which implies she births them. On several occasions, she refers to the plants as her babies and herself as mother and acts as such around them. Also, the plants display several human characteristics like the one Ivy holds in the jar and the giggly childlike sounds the plants make.


3. How Ivy uses the Turkish Baths water. The Turkish Baths appears to have been vacant for some time when Ivy and Bane take it over, so there is liking no running water in the building, meaning she probably used the big pool as a toilet, which makes it extra gross for Robin when Ivy pushes him into the pool (i.e. she would rather have him drown in a pool of piss than let him win).

4. How Ivy gets her costumes. There is no way Ivy could have tailored her costumes considering how tightly they fit on her, especially the lime-green one. Perhaps she has the ability to grown her costumes on her body as a sort of second skin or a sort of shield to protect her body from harm (i.e. weapons, unwanted sexual advances).

5. How Ivy makes her pheromones. Pheromones are usually produced through sex organs, so Ivy likely makes her pheromone dust by synthesizing vaginal fluid she collects from herself (maybe via tampon), which is gross but necessary to get men to be overtly attracted to her specifically.

6. Ivy and Freeze have sex. Ivy (thinks she) kills Freeze's wife and forms an alliance with Freeze to take over the world and make herself the only woman in his life to become "Adam and Evil." Ivy appears enamored by Freeze throughout the film and even stares at his crotch when Freeze asks what Ivy wants in return for helping Freeze escape and bring about global winter. Ivy and Freeze likely have sex considering how upset Freeze is when he learns that Ivy attempted to kill his wife, the fact that Ivy's green suit isn't seen again (ripped off), and Ivy's need to conceive plant children who would be ice compatible to survive the new Ice Age.

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People don't go to the toilet in these films. They're fantasies.

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Let's just imagine that she pees chlorophyll and defecates petals.

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I do think there is something to Ivy and her plant babies being her biological children. Maybe she collects the seeds that come out of her “v” and grows them in the soil. She does say to the seeds “good babies, grow for mommy,” and I did notice too how the seeds don’t appear in her hands until she squats down and puts her hand near her “v.” She also compares herself to God in her ability to create life, so I definitely agree she is the biological mother of her plant seeds. The father of them is a mystery though.

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